Fox News.com: Obama's To Blame for the Birther Movement.
While reading this post over at Mario Apuzzo's blog, there was a link to a message board comment thread discussion on this issue that was started way back in July, 2008.
The question being asked there was Will the FBI Allow Obama's Birth Certificate Fraud?
Apparently, the answer (so far) is a very disappointing "yes."
However, I found the comments at the site quite interesting - especially what "Flossie666" wrote in June, 2009. Since information which could be detrimental to Obama's case is constantly being scrubbed from the Internet, I have copied and pasted the thread in its entirety here:
the caped politicoid
Chicago, IL
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Report Abuse Judge it! #1 Jul 21, 2008
Judged:
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Does the FBI have a Constitution responsibility to vett potential Presidents?
unbearable reality
Indianapolis, IN
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Report Abuse Judge it! #2 Jul 22, 2008
This is the stunning part, political correctness trumps the Constitution! This whole election cycle flunks the smell test.
nan
Reno, NV
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Report Abuse Judge it! #3 Aug 14, 2008
I think Obama's travels to Kenya should be looked into and what he was doing before he joined that radical church and ofcourse what he was doing during that time and exactly how deep are his friendships and was Ratzo or whatever his name a Muslim? I heard he was or is.
mind candy
Indianapolis, IN
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Report Abuse Judge it! #4 Aug 14, 2008
Obama is a mystery and the powers thst be want to keep it that way. The people are kept out of the loop.
the Obama afterbirth Reply »
Report Abuse Judge it! #5 Aug 22, 2008
Obama is extempt from proving his citizenship because the black ghettos of America would burn if "the first black president" had the Presidency stolen from him on non-citizenship grounds.
simon6071
Los Angeles, CA
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Report Abuse Judge it! #6 Aug 22, 2008
"Clinton supporter sues Obama on grounds he is constitutional ineligible for Presidency"-The Hillary Project
http://www.hillaryproject.com/
It's really good news that the Hillary supporters finally do what should be done to save the Democratic Party and the United States of America from being corrupted by the unruly Obama campaign.
It is preposterous that Obama can go this far in the presidential election by providing only the image a forged birth certificate to counter charges that he is not a natural born citizen of the USA and, if he ever was, that he lost his citizenship when he was adopted in Indonesia.
The lawsuit states that Obama was born in Kenya and subsequently flew to Hawaii to register birth. This circumstance of Obam's birth is also claimed by Obama's own paternal grandmother, half-brother and half-sister. Being born in Kenya while Obama's father is a Kenyan citizen means Obama is a Kenyan citizen but not a US natural born citizen like McCain whose parents were both US citizens when he was born in a then US controlled military base in Panama.
According to Kenyan constitution, Obama's father being a Kenyan citizen would automatically confer Kenyan citizenship to Obama. However, Obama has never officially renounced his automatic Kenyan citizenship. So even if Obama can prove his US citizenship, the issue of "multi-citizenship with responsibilities owed to and allegiance to other countries" remains on the table.
America is a highly advanced and civilized country ruled by law. We need to produce valid documents when we apply for a driver license or a job in the private and especially the government sector. So it only make sense that the issue of Obama's eligibility be solved in court as soon as possible or our presidential election process would be corrupted and the national security of the USA would be jeopardized.
mind candy
Indianapolis, IN
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Report Abuse Judge it! #7 Aug 22, 2008
simon6071 wrote:
"Clinton supporter sues Obama on grounds he is constitutional ineligible for Presidency"-The Hillary Project
http://www.hillaryproject.com/
It's really good news that the Hillary supporters finally do what should be done to save the Democratic Party and the United States of America from being corrupted by the unruly Obama campaign.
It is preposterous that Obama can go this far in the presidential election by providing only the image a forged birth certificate to counter charges that he is not a natural born citizen of the USA and, if he ever was, that he lost his citizenship when he was adopted in Indonesia.
The lawsuit states that Obama was born in Kenya and subsequently flew to Hawaii to register birth. This circumstance of Obam's birth is also claimed by Obama's own paternal grandmother, half-brother and half-sister. Being born in Kenya while Obama's father is a Kenyan citizen means Obama is a Kenyan citizen but not a US natural born citizen like McCain whose parents were both US citizens when he was born in a then US controlled military base in Panama.
According to Kenyan constitution, Obama's father being a Kenyan citizen would automatically confer Kenyan citizenship to Obama. However, Obama has never officially renounced his automatic Kenyan citizenship. So even if Obama can prove his US citizenship, the issue of "multi-citizenship with responsibilities owed to and allegiance to other countries" remains on the table.
America is a highly advanced and civilized country ruled by law. We need to produce valid documents when we apply for a driver license or a job in the private and especially the government sector. So it only make sense that the issue of Obama's eligibility be solved in court as soon as possible or our presidential election process would be corrupted and the national security of the USA would be jeopardized.
The media has suppressed the facts because they believe that only a non-American can save America. The media hates America so much that they would prefer a Kenyan Marxist over any American. *
the Obama afterbirth Reply »
Report Abuse Judge it! #8 Aug 24, 2008
What madness!!! Obama COULD be an illegal alien and nobody cares!
mind candy
Indianapolis, IN
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Report Abuse Judge it! #9 Aug 24, 2008
This country is drunk on kool-aid.
mooned Reply »
Report Abuse Judge it! #10 Aug 27, 2008
Why doesn't the media do its duty and explore this question?
mind candy
Indianapolis, IN
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Report Abuse Judge it! #11 Aug 27, 2008
mooned wrote:
Why doesn't the media do its duty and explore this question?
Political correctness.
nivese
United States
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Report Abuse Judge it! #12 Oct 4, 2008
Many years ago I met a person who had a false birthday certifcate and no body took the time to verify his american citizenship. So I wouldn't be suprise if Obama is in the same situation. Beside what can we expect from the media? The media had proved through the time that they hate America and they prefer a marxist goverment. I know what i say because I'm a American citizen and original from a country that had for a while a marxist goverment and the way to conquer power is through lies.
It is time for the media to show they rreally for America proving that Obama is or not an American citizen born in America.
Joe Wallston
Rotonda West, FL
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Report Abuse Judge it! #13 Oct 24, 2008
The FBI is required by law to investigate background of presidential candidates.
That would include the birth place.
It would be good to get some real proof that Obama was born in the USA.
popular enlightenment
Waukegan, IL
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Report Abuse Judge it! #14 Oct 24, 2008
There is a cabal against America to implant the illegal alien Obama as President. What is wrong with our country?
parlo
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Report Abuse Judge it! #15 Oct 24, 2008
The right wing crackpots are out in full force on this thread.
It is this type of nonsense that is only making it harder for Republicans to get elected this year.
You are a bunch of fringe element freaks who are chasing many people away from voting Republican.
popular enlightenment
Waukegan, IL
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Report Abuse Judge it! #16 Oct 24, 2008
parlo wrote:
The right wing crackpots are out in full force on this thread.
It is this type of nonsense that is only making it harder for Republicans to get elected this year.
You are a bunch of fringe element freaks who are chasing many people away from voting Republican.
How does Obama's kool-aid taste? Sweet, sour, or like donkey milk?
Flossie666
New Orleans, LA
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Report Abuse Judge it! #17 Jun 25, 2009
Sure there's evidence that Obama's not a natural born citizen. He was turned down for US. financial aid when he went to undergraduate school. He got a letter from the US. Department of Education saying he was unintitiled to the Federal aid because he wasn't a US. citizen. This letter was signed by the Dept. of Education Secretary during the Reagan administration. Obama's picture on NNDB website was the picture he sent to his undergrad. school when he did the whole application package, including his financial aid form. That's why his school sealed his records - they can either eat from the trough or be threatened by his imperial presidency by losing all their government aid (research dollars) from divulging this information.
The Directors of the FBI and the CIA are responsible for controlling who gets the ciphers to read classified information. The Director of the FBI guards the ciphers - like the one for reading the nuclear code. If Obama threatens the CIA Director and tries to politicize the CIA, the FBI Director will just sit, sit, and sit some more on the ciphers until Obama produces a vault copy of his birth certificate (which he doesn't have). One of the former CIA Directors had the Dept. of Education financial aid letter investigated and certified that it was authentic, but Obama can punish him if he speaks out by putting him on trial for alleged war crimes. He's innocent, but he would have to use his life savings to defend himself.
The Director of the FBI refuses to have his agency politicized, so if he sits on the ciphers and Obama as an acct of spite tries to fire him, he will just release the information to the public. All of this is going behind the scenes, but if you see Obama clearly not discussing certain topics like Iran during a press conference, that means he is *uninformed* for a reason...
Greg Goss
Taunton, MA
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Report Abuse Judge it! #18 Friday
Flossie666- Do you have a source for your comment #17?
Georgetown
Sugar Land, TX
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Report Abuse Judge it! #19 Friday
Link- Birth abroad see last comment
http://www.topix.com/forum/news/2008-presiden...
Greg Goss
Taunton, MA
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Report Abuse Judge it! #20 Friday
Georgetown wrote:
Link- Birth abroad see last comment
http://www.topix.com/forum/news/2008-presiden...
That link brings us right back here! That is called a "Circle Jerk"
Hillary Fan
Warrenville, IL
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Report Abuse Judge it! #21 7 hrs ago
Flossie666 wrote:
Sure there's evidence that Obama's not a natural born citizen. He was turned down for US. financial aid when he went to undergraduate school. He got a letter from the US. Department of Education saying he was unintitiled to the Federal aid because he wasn't a US. citizen. This letter was signed by the Dept. of Education Secretary during the Reagan administration. Obama's picture on NNDB website was the picture he sent to his undergrad. school when he did the whole application package, including his financial aid form. That's why his school sealed his records - they can either eat from the trough or be threatened by his imperial presidency by losing all their government aid (research dollars) from divulging this information.
The Directors of the FBI and the CIA are responsible for controlling who gets the ciphers to read classified information. The Director of the FBI guards the ciphers - like the one for reading the nuclear code. If Obama threatens the CIA Director and tries to politicize the CIA, the FBI Director will just sit, sit, and sit some more on the ciphers until Obama produces a vault copy of his birth certificate (which he doesn't have). One of the former CIA Directors had the Dept. of Education financial aid letter investigated and certified that it was authentic, but Obama can punish him if he speaks out by putting him on trial for alleged war crimes. He's innocent, but he would have to use his life savings to defend himself.
The Director of the FBI refuses to have his agency politicized, so if he sits on the ciphers and Obama as an acct of spite tries to fire him, he will just release the information to the public. All of this is going behind the scenes, but if you see Obama clearly not discussing certain topics like Iran during a press conference, that means he is *uninformed* for a reason...
I have been following this for the past year, and this is the first I have heard of this letter. Could you please provide some information as to how you know this....just point us in the right direction.
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* I thought that "mind candy" hit the nail on the head when he (or she) wrote:
The media has suppressed the facts because they believe that only a non-American can save America. The media hates America so much that they would prefer a Kenyan Marxist over any American.
Recall that Newsweek magazine cover that declared, "We Are All Socialists Now"?? They were PROUD OF IT! This is what happens when a far left lunatic fringe Marxist usurper gets into a position of power. The minions do not fear upsetting the regular, patriotic middle America Constitutional Republic supporters anymore. Therefore, they feel free to spew their treasonous rhetoric around and actually are celebrating the (hoped - on their part) demise of what the Founding Fathers envisioned for our nation!
Unfortunately, there has not been any additional replies or information given by "Flossie666."
I cannot say for a fact that what was written by this "Flossie" person is true, but IF true, it does help in determining just why Obama has enjoyed so much cover-up protection in this matter - not only by the media - but also by the FBI and CIA.
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