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WHY vs WHY Gay Marriage

The day that my husband and I went to our daughter's high school (back in 2003) to express our concern over a gay/straight club that was forming at the school, we knew that the homosexual legal agenda would only get worse and worse. We were absolutely correct!

Read and weep - dear Christian parents - about what is being taught to children as young as 6 years old in public schools in California.

Within the next few days, I am going to share my thoughts and opinions about an excellent resource where parents can come right out (pardon the pun) and combat the intense homosexual indoctrination that is going on in public schools.

Your teen aged children (especially here in California) have probably already been so indoctrinated to think that homosexuality is "normal," "natural," and not sinful. The Bible tells us otherwise and our churches are trying to combat the onslaught with the truth about such abhorrent behavior.  However, it also helps (IMHO) to encourage children to read and study BOTH sides of the issue so that they can feel empowered to make up their own minds on the issue.  Some may not budge because they are too indoctrinated, but many may change there minds when they read the facts from those on the pro- one man, one woman marriage issue that are NOT being taught in the public schools.

The resource that I am referring to is a book written by Christian Internet author and blog writer Bill Muehlenberg and his secular co-author and gay activist, Rodney Croome.  It is called Why vs. Why Gay Marriage and presents both arguments regarding the gay marriage issue.  Bill's blog is called Culture Watch. At that site, Bill has years worth of excellent information that anyone can utilize in the ongoing battle between good and evil. His essays are chock full of important evaluations on many subjects regarding Christian faith and values vs. secular humanism and depravity. I highly recommend his blog and the book Why vs. Why Gay Marriage. If your child has been indoctrinated by the radical homosexual agenda, reading that book will give him/her the REAL story behind how, and why, he/she has been duped into believing man's "wisdom" that such behavior is "good." He/she may even discover that the timeless wisdom of God Almighty trumps man's thoughts EVERY TIME.

What is interesting is that the co-author, Rodney Croome (pro gay marriage) brings up "religion" in his argument and Bill just blows that argument right out of the water with his excellent rebuttal!

You can get a copy of the book at Amazon.com.

The following is a copy of an email that I received from Randy Thomasson, President of SaveCalifornia.com. Please take the time to read it all and visit the links within the text. If you are not appalled by learning about al the seven radical homosexual indoctrination bills that have been passed by the Democratic-led state legislature here in California, then you must have been brain-dirtied by all of the propaganda that the activists are spewing that goes entirely against what God's Holy Word in the Bible teaches against the BEHAVIOR of homosexual acts - which God's Word specifically says are to be avoided.

Next, get a copy of Why vs. Why Gay Marriage to arm yourself with the powerful and POSITIVE arguments that Bill Muehlenberg has shared in that book to counter co-author Rodney Croome's indoctrination arguments.

In Christ's Service,
Christine

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Randy's email:


SAVECALIFORNIA.COM NEWS RELEASE
FOR IMMEDIATE RELEASE -- April 14, 2011

California Senate mandates homosexual role models for schoolchildren
Thomasson: "Parents don't want and children don't need 'LGBTIQ' role models"
 
Sacramento, California – With today's passage by the Democrat-controlled California State Senate of "lesbian, gay, bisexual, and transgender Americans" as mandatory role models for children as young as kindergarten, SaveCalifornia.com, a leading West Coast pro-family, pro-child organization is calling upon California parents to permanently remove their children from the government school system.

Today, the California Senate, on a 23 to 14 vote -- Democrats for, Republicans against -- approved what would be the 7th school sexual indoctrination law teaching children to view homosexuality, bisexuality, and transsexuality as a good and natural lifestyle option. The vote comes the day before the disruptive "Day of Silence" in public schools, sponsored by the "Gay, Lesbian and Straight Education Network," which SaveCalifornia.com is urging parents to counter-protest by keeping their kids home this Friday.

SB 48 would mandate that history and social studies textbooks and instructional materials teach children to admire "lesbian, gay, bisexual, and transgender Americans" as role models. The proponents of the bill seem to have forgotten there are already six statewide school sexual indoctrination laws affirming homosexuality, bisexuality, and transsexuality.

"This clear and present danger should motivate fathers and mothers to rescue their children from California government schools and take them to the safe havens of solid church schools and homeschooling," said Randy Thomasson, president of SaveCalifornia.com. "Parents don't want and children don't need 'LGBTIQ' role models in school, SB 48 is sexual brainwashing in the extreme. It's damaging and nonacademic to teach children a lie -- that homosexuality, bisexuality, and transsexuality are natural and healthy lifestyles, when they’re not."

(Sources: NARTH: "Is There A 'Gay Gene?'"; American College of Pediatricians: "Health Risks of the Homosexual Lifestyle")

"SB 48 micromanages public schools by forcing teachers, administrators, local school boards, textbooks, and instructional materials to promote a gaggle of sexual lifestyles that disturb parents and confuse kids," Thomasson said. "This state mandate targets children for sexual brainwashing, behind the backs of parents, teaching boys and girls to admire those who engage in unnatural and unhealthy homosexual, bisexual, and transsexual behavior."

If SB 48 becomes law:

1. Textbooks and instructional materials must positively promote "lesbian, gay, bisexual, and transgender Americans" as "role" models.

2. Children as young as 6 years old will be taught to admire homosexuality, same-sex "marriages," bisexuality, and transsexuality (sex-change operations).

3. Children will be taught to support the political activism of "Lesbian, Gay, Bisexual, Transgender, Intersex and Questioning" (LGBTIQ) political groups, as the bill requires "particular emphasis on portraying the role of these groups in contemporary society."

4. Teachers will be made to positively portray homosexuality, same-sex "marriages," bisexuality, and transsexuality (sex-changes operations), because to be silent can bring the charge of "reflecting adversely."

5. School boards will be required to select textbooks and other instructional materials that positively portray sex-change operations, same-sex "marriages," and more, because to be silent on these subjects opens them up to charges of "reflecting adversely."

6. Parents will not be notified, nor will they be able to exempt their children, from this new core curriculum.

"California government schools are no longer morally safe for impressionable children," Thomasson said. "Because of the raft of sexual indoctrination laws already in force, which promote homosexuality, bisexuality, and transsexuality under the guise of 'discrimination' and 'harassment,' the social engineers are already having their way with more than six million boys and girls, with or without SB 48. That's why we strongly urge loving parents to rescue their children by permanently removing them from government schools and placing them in the safe havens of church schools or homeschooling." (Source: RescueYourChild.com)

"We call on Governor Jerry Brown to have compassion, to respect parents, and to remember when public schools used to be good and didn't push sexual indoctrination," Thomasson said. "Now public schools aren't so good, yet homosexual activists are pushing their non-academic agenda without regard to parents or logic or the best interests of children. Governor Brown should prepare to veto this bad bill, which greatly disturbs parents, confuses kids, and flushes public schools farther down the toilet."

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SaveCalifornia.com
Randy Thomasson, President
P.O. Box 511, Sacramento, CA 95812
(916) 265-5650
http://www.savecalifornia.com/

SaveCalifornia.com is a leading West Coast nonprofit, nonpartisan organization standing strong for moral virtues for the common good. We represent children and families in the areas of marriage and family, parental rights, the sanctity of human life, religious freedom, financial freedom, and back-to-basics education.


Hat tips to all links.
Special thanks to Bill Muehlenberg for telling me about his excellent book, Why vs. Why Gay Marriage.

Blatant Intolerance by the Homosexual Agenda [Update]



I think that the flyer in the photo* above should read:

100% HATEFUL PRIDE! They also need to practice what they apparently like to preach: "Break down stereotypes and challenge (THEIR OWN FORM) of bigotry!"

Yesterday, I received an email alert from Randy Thomasson regarding the REAL reason why Carrie Prejean was FORCED OUT BY FIRING her from her title as Miss California. This was done by the director of the California pageant, Keith Lewis, who is also (surprise!) a rabid gay activist.

Before I present Mr. Thomasson's essay, I want to share one of the comments that I received over at my "Protect Biblical Marriage" blog post entitled Gay Activist Haters & Cohorts Finally Got Their Way:

Anonymous said:
"A contract is a contract is a contract."

Sure Miss California did upset some people, both gay and straight with her views on marriage, but you are blending the events that occurred that night with what has occurred now.

She was fired due to a breach in her contract, simple enough, lets move along.

June 12, 2009 3:33 AM

Christinewjc said...
Anonymous @ 3:33 a.m. -

Someone is lying. I sincerely doubt that it is Carrie Prejean or her pastor, Miles McPherson.

Miles appeared on Larry King Live the day the firing of Carrie announcement was made. He explained that Carrie HAD NOT breached her contract. She was fulfilling the duties that were being asked of her.

After reading the following blog post:

Why Carrie Prejean lost her earthly crown, I think I know what happened. She was forced out by the CA pageant director - Keith Lewis, who happens to be gay and was "insulted" when Carrie expressed her God-given view that SHE BELIEVES (what Barack Obama, Hillary Clinton, and other liberal democrats believe) that marriage is the union of one man and one woman.

From then on, he worked hard to find a way to get rid of her. Unfortunately, he succeeded.


[Added: As readers will see after reading Randy Thomasson's blog post, Keith Lewis attempted to force Carrie to make an appearance that would violate her values as a Christian woman. Lewis, in a similar manner as what the serpent in the garden of Eden did - tempted the luring of a young woman to do what she knew was against the God's will in order to keep her "earthly" crown. That is just despicable!!

See if you don't agree after reading this excerpt:

And there is evidence that Lewis tried to muzzle Carrie from speaking at events of her choosing. Email transcripts between Carrie and Lewis suggest he had a problem with her speaking at the Special Olympics, while, at the same time, suggesting she pose for Playboy and appear on grungy “reality TV” shows.


On Thursday, I listened to Carrie on the Sean Hannity radio show, who now has the help of pro-family attorney Chuck LiMandri, who’s issued a statement accusing Keith Lewis of fabricating his claims.


On the show, Carrie said Lewis wanted her to attend a documentary promoting gay “marriage” at the Sundance Film Festival and she refused. “If I’m in breach of contract because I didn’t go to a gay event, so be it,” she said.


As for the Playboy magazine offer, Carrie says this “shows their hidden agenda…they wanted me to break to the contract [prohibiting nude and semi-nude photos]…they wanted me out from day one….I have the email to prove it.”


“This is happening to me because of my stance on gay marriage,” Carrie said. “It’s not because of the contract…It’s really taught me how intolerant some people can be…It’s not right and it’s just plain wrong what’s happened to me.”


I agree. The big picture here is the blatant intolerance of the homosexual agenda, which PUNISHES anyone who disagrees with them.]


But I do not think that this is the end of the story. A lawsuit will get the truth out. I hope that Carrie goes through with it. She has an iron will - especially when she was so viciously verbally attacked and even got DEATH THREATS from the gay mafia. I see her as a young woman who has the strength to go through with a lawsuit, if she chooses to do so.

I have heard her speak at The Rock Church. She would not go through with the lawsuit for personal gain. She would do it for the sake of free speech, freedom of religion, and freedom of association - all rights that are guaranteed by the United States Constitution.

I am doing a post on this on my Talk Wisdom blog and will cross-post it here.

June 12, 2009 8:22 AM

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Mr. Thomasson' post reveals the truth behind Lewis' sneaky maneuverings to get Carrie Prejean fired. Lewis is a homosexual filled with hate and bigotry of anyone who disagrees with his sexual deviancy, sinful sexual practices, and mafia-styled homosexual activism.

Here is Mr. Thomasson's essay in its entirety:

SaveCalifornia.com Blog




Why Carrie Prejean lost her earthly crown

Thursday, June 11, 2009, 5:43 pm Randy Thomasson

First, a homosexual activist “judge” kept Carrie Prejean from winning the Miss USA contest.

Next, the homosexual “marriage” activists who led the California pageant tried to get Carrie fired, but Donald Trump said no.

Finally, the homosexual activist director of the Miss California Pageant persisted and got rid of Carrie.

Keith Lewis, the director of the Miss California USA Pageant, is an open homosexual and obviously very insecure. After Carrie said on national TV on April 19 that marriage is only for a man and a woman, Lewis said he was personally offended. For weeks, he campaigned unprofessionally, publicly and continually attacking Carrie and aggressively lobbied Donald Trump to fire her.

Lewis’ anti-natural-marriage campaign showed its venom on May 11. That’s when Lewis and then-co-director Shanna Moakler (who strongly believes in homosexual “marriage” and was a Playboy centerfold) held a Beverly Hills news conference blasting Carrie for “unauthorized” speaking engagements at her church and at a traditional marriage news conference, as well as Carrie’s lingerie and swimsuit photos, and called for her to be fired.

The next day, May 12, pageant owner Donald Trump directed everyone to “make nice” and said Carrie would keep her crown. But what does oil have in common with water or light in common with dark? The 12-page contract Carrie signed is horrible and gave Keith Lewis so much power over her.

The day after the “unity event” in New York, Moakler and Lewis came back to California. That same day, Moakler resigned from her pageant post to protest Carrie keeping her crown. And Lewis began “keeping a file” on Carrie in an effort to eventually fire her himself.

That takes us to now.

There’s every indication that Lewis had daggers in his eyes for Carrie ever since she said she doesn’t believe in homosexual “marriage” like he does.
And there is evidence that Lewis tried to muzzle Carrie from speaking at events of her choosing. Email transcripts between Carrie and Lewis suggest he had a problem with her speaking at the Special Olympics, while, at the same time, suggesting she pose for Playboy and appear on grungy “reality TV” shows.

On Thursday, I listened to Carrie on the Sean Hannity radio show, who now has the help of pro-family attorney Chuck LiMandri, who’s issued a statement accusing Keith Lewis of fabricating his claims.

On the show, Carrie said Lewis wanted her to attend a documentary promoting gay “marriage” at the Sundance Film Festival and she refused. “If I’m in breach of contract because I didn’t go to a gay event, so be it,” she said.

As for the Playboy magazine offer, Carrie says this “shows their hidden agenda…they wanted me to break to the contract [prohibiting nude and semi-nude photos]…they wanted me out from day one….I have the email to prove it.”

“This is happening to me because of my stance on gay marriage,” Carrie said. “It’s not because of the contract…It’s really taught me how intolerant some people can be…It’s not right and it’s just plain wrong what’s happened to me.”

I agree. The big picture here is the blatant intolerance of the homosexual agenda, which PUNISHES anyone who disagrees with them.

If Carrie were my sister, I would have encouraged her to quit a few weeks ago. She had “appealed” the bad conduct of her boss Keith Lewis to a higher judge, Donald Trump, the owner of the pageant. But Lewis kept his job and kept targeting Carrie. Apparently, the animosity of a homosexual activist against those who disagree will never agree to peace.
Quitting would have put Carrie in the driver’s seat. She could have told America how she stood on principle about her public appearances and had to quit rather than give up her principles. Why agree to have your free speech controlled by a homosexual activist who hates you and targets you for your stand on marriage?

But look what’s happened. Keith Lewis and Carrie’s detractors aggressively rode the media circuit the first 24 hours of this story. While Carrie was hiding from the media that day and turning down interview requests, she was publicly labeled a contract-breaker. By not anticipating the firing and not doing media, Carrie was called the bad guy and the homosexual activists cheered. Twenty-two-year-old Carrie needs better public relations advisors!

To many, this is a case of “he said, she said.” America clearly witnessed and understood the first intolerant homosexual attack from Perez Hilton upon Carrie during the Miss USA Pageant. But now that another homosexual activist, Pageant Director Keith Lewis, has attacked Carrie on a technicality, which involves details about public appearances that are cloudy or at least unclear. America can’t correctly judge this.

Through it all, Carrie has been given an incredible platform and opportunity to speak for God’s truth. My hope is that Carrie will seek God’s biblical wisdom for her next step. Personally, I would like to see her reject fleshy beauty pageants and the lusty photos she’s posed in, which, so far, she’s defended. It would be helpful to America for her to write a book that honors what God created – the natural family and moral standards for sexuality – and championing the American ethic of free speech.

But most of all, I hope Carrie will take some time to grow deeper in her faith and in everything seek to be a holy example for girls and young women. I don’t want teen girls to dream about strutting on stage for a beauty contest or taking risqué photos or getting breast implants like Carrie did. God created women to be much better than that.

Get a healthy perspective on the topic of outer beauty versus inner beauty. Listen to the SaveAmerica.com Radio Show with former model Jennifer Strickland. This is a very stimulating discussion to help women develop a true identity and give up their false identities. (Men, you need to hear this too, to understand the women and girls in your family.)

Charm is deceptive, and beauty is fleeting;but a woman who fears the LORD is to be praised. Proverbs 31:30 NIV

Tags:

Hat Tip:


Save California.com Blog

The Gadfly Blog

Photo credit:

Americans for Truth [WARNING: If you choose to go to this website, be forewarned: Graphic, pornographic-like descriptions of homosexual perversions are contained in this flier for “boyz”]

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Update:

Watch this interview by Matt Lauer with Carrie Prejean. Even MORE proof that Carrie was set up by gay activist Keith Lewis!!

Why Hatred is Spewed Against Miss California

While cooking dinner and watching O'Reilly, I was pleasantly surprised to see Pastor Miles on the show! He was being questioned about the continual hatred being spewed against Miss California, Carrie Prejean by the far left loons.

Pastor Miles gave GREAT answers! I loved the answer he shared whenever the gay rights movement vs. the black civil rights movement question comes up. They don't compare. One is a behavior, the other involves skin color and ethnicity. He said (paraphrased), 'I know several people who are not gay anymore, but never met anyone who isn't black anymore.'

The media portrays "gayness" as something unchangeable. That is why the radical gay agenda activists absolutely HATE anyone who has changed their orientation! It is a threat to their perceived "rights" agenda.

The same hate is aimed at any popular national spokesperson - like new spokeswoman for National Organization for Marriage - Carrie Prejean, who advocates for God's plan for marriage. After all - God invented the union of one man and one woman as a covenant relationship. Science and reason back up such wisdom and knowledge as well.

Those who fight against that covenant which was first established by God have not only an argument with millions of people who uphold such unions (as most born-again biblically-based Christians do), but they also are attempting to argue with, and fight against God's will, science, and reason in the matter! This is why their spirits are so disturbed and they act out in hate, anger, slander, cursing, and disparagement.

The truth is, they are in a lot of pain and anger - not because of those who reject "marriage" for them - but because they are spiritually broken and reject God's will in their lives.

Miss California's pronouncement reminded them of that truth - even though they would absolutely refuse to admit it. She reminded them of their spiritual brokenness and separation from God because of their refusal to confess, repent, and submit to His Will in their lives. Jesus warned us that people would, "hate us because they first hated him."

Most Christians are more heavily aware of the spiritual battle behind it all. However, deep in each person's soul, the difference between right (good) and wrong (evil) has been planted in our conscience by God. Anyone can hide and reject such awareness and commit evil, sinful acts. They can even go further to proclaim what they do as "goodness and righteousness," despite the fact that God's Word reveals it as evil and sin. But when they do so, they are in denial.

The homosexual community is a cult. They, and their cohorts, are deeply involved with denial and are actively suppressing that truth. They are in bondage to their particular sin - and they will fight to the death not to allow it to be revealed and exposed as such. This is why they will do all that they can to punish anyone who disagrees with their radical agenda. They continue to shake their fists at God and refuse to do the one thing that will save them from their sins!

It is only with a humbling of oneself before God, confession, repentance, accepting Jesus Christ as Lord and Savior, and the continuing sanctification in this life that a person who self-identifies as homosexual can be released from the bondage of that behavior and identity as well as the punishment (which we all, as sinners in need of the Savior deserve) that results because of such sin.

But it takes an act of the will to do so.

It involves denying the wrong fleshly desires and agreeing with God as to what is proper in a sexual relationship via the covenant of marriage.

Some will always refuse God's mercy, grace, love, and forgiveness and continue to go their own way. This is to their own detriment.

All we can do, as believers, is point them in the right direction towards Jesus Christ.

Pro 14:12 There is a way that seems right to a man, but in the end it leads to death.

Pro 12:15 The way of a fool seems right to him, but a wise man listens to advice.

Mat 4:17 From that time on Jesus began to preach, "Repent, for the kingdom of heaven is near."

Jhn 14:6 Jesus answered, "I am the way and the truth and the life. No one comes to the Father except through me.

Jhn 3:7 You should not be surprised at my saying, 'You must be born again.'


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Additional blog posts in support of Carrie Prejean:

Camp On This

Young Woman Holds to Her Convictions


When I heard the name, "Carrie Prejean," I thought to myself that the name sounded familiar. While texting with my daughter this morning, she reminded me that they had become good friends while they both played on the same softball team years ago. She wrote, "Mom - check out the softball photo of the team in red on the shelf above your computer desk. She had brown hair back then."

Yep...now I remember her! When I have some time (and guidance on how to do it) I will scan and upload that softball team photo.

For now, I want to share a link to the video of Carrie's answer to the homosexual man (who called her a very cruel and ugly name afterwards in his own video), and how very proud we all are of her for standing up for her convictions and not sacrificing them for the pageant crown.

Miss California loses for supporting marriage between a man and woman.

Excerpt:


“Good for Miss California,” said Johnny Franks in The Chattanoogan. She was asked a loaded question by an openly gay judge, and held to her morals when it would have been so easy to “sacrifice them for the crown.” Shame on everybody who booed her—“since when do we live in a pink Nazi society that sensors free speech.”




Some good comments there:



JoAnn
Posted April 20, 2009 at 5:23 pm Permalink
Everybody pray for her, she stood up for her cinvictions, I believe God will bless her. We will be put down for anything against the gay agenda but consider the source, they are serving satan and not God. It is a very different world we live in and it isn’t going to get any better so hang in there for what the Bible stands for and we will win in the end.

John Kehoe
Posted April 20, 2009 at 5:36 pm Permalink
My 18 year old grandson and I watched the tournament, and Miss California had won hands down, but when that flaming gay judge asked that question, and she gave a courageous and correct answer we turned to one another and said she was washed up, because she stood on principle. In any event, I thought the Miss USA pageasnt was on looks and not on politial correctness. When did this change? John Kehoe

james dome
Posted April 21, 2009 at 4:28 am Permalink
She is a winner to God and that’s where it matters. Man’s ways are not God’s ways. This life is temporary.

Karen
Posted April 21, 2009 at 10:55 am Permalink
Kudos to Miss California for being a true American, one who stands for her belief in the face of adversity and even at the cost of a crown. Boo to Perez Hilton for being such a hypocrit, not a champion against bigotry. Boo for the Miss America committee who chose the judges. Miss California’s courage will long outlive the Miss America Contest.


Lastly, isn't it ironic that Miss California is getting all of the attention because of her determination to not be "politically correct?" I don't even know who actually won the pageant!

Hat Tip:

Alliance Defense Fund

Also see:

Fox News: Exclusive: Carrie Prejean Says 'God Was Testing My Faith' With Gay Marriage Question

'Gay' is Bustin' Out All Over


Have you noticed this? The 'gay rights' political machine is thoroughly intent on steamrolling over the majority of the public opinion that holds to the definition of marriage to remain as one man and one woman. In addition, those who hold objections to the homosexual mafia's continual bullying and enforcement of 'gay' issues almost have the appearance of not mattering to Christians anymore.

But don't you ever believe that!

It is one of Satan's greatest ploys - to get believers in Jesus Christ to care more about being "liked" rather than to preach the need for sinners to repent and apply the true gospel for the salvation of souls.

There are several articles about the current rapid fire of events being forced upon America by the radical homosexual agenda activists over at World Net Daily.

1. Christian college creates homosexual housing
'It's a chance for students to be part of a unique experience'


2. Iowa, Vermont 'marriage' decisions 'aberrations'
30 states have 1-man, 1-woman definitions in constitutions


There are several more to read over at WorldNetDaily. Even Michael Savage, who became a new columnist at that website today, has his say in The Rising Tide of Pink Fascism .

There is hope, though. There is always hope! When and in Whom? It is when Christians and conservatives don't give up the fight, continue to speak their minds which are guided by the Holy Spirit of God. Share the Gospel of Christ and take a stand against the moral decline happening in our society today. Read and study the Bible so that you are properly equipped in this battle between good and evil.

The following article is just one example that shows how persistence often pays off:


3. 'Gay' promo objections get eHarmony attention
Customer confirms refund after opposing moral change


Last, but certainly not least, we can see why this problem is widening with wishy-washy, namby-pamby pastors like Rick Warren:

4. America's wishy-washy pastors

It is just too good and too important to only post an excerpt, so here is the article in it's entirety:

Quote:

America's wishy-washy pastors

Posted: April 08, 2009
1:00 am Eastern

© 2009

America achieved its independence and freedom in the 18th century in large part because colonial pastors stood up for biblical principles, preached them, lived them and refused to back down from them – even in the face of death.

The American War of Independence has been accurately called a "pulpit revolution" for this reason. It was inspired by great men of God who recognized evil and called it by its right name.

What a difference two centuries, combined with affluence and the corporatization of the 501(c)3 church culture has made.

A good example of this was on display on CNN's "Larry King Live" this week, as "America's Pastor" Rick Warren did a soft shoe act on his role in the same-sex marriage battle over Proposition 8 in California.

"You know, Larry, there was a story within a story that never got told," he said. "In the first place, I am not an anti-gay or anti-gay marriage activist. I never have been, never will be. During the whole Proposition 8 thing, I never once went to a meeting, never once issued a statement, never – never once even gave an endorsement in the two years Prop 8 was going. The week before the – the vote, somebody in my church said, Pastor Rick, what – what do you think about this? And I sent a note to my own members that said, I actually believe that marriage is – really should be defined, that that definition should be – say between a man and a woman.

"And then all of a sudden out of it, they made me, you know, something that I really wasn't," Warren continued. "And I actually – there were a number of things that were put out. I wrote to all my gay friends – the leaders that I knew – and actually apologized to them. That never got out. There were some things said that – you know, everybody should have 10 percent grace when they say public statements. And I was asked a question that made it sound like I equated gay marriage with pedophilia or incest, which I absolutely do not believe. And I actually announced that. All of the criticism came from people that didn't know me. Not a single criticism came from any gay leader who knows me and knows that for years, we've been working together on AIDS issues and all these other things."

What are we to make of such mealy-mouthed, wishy-washy, namby-pamby hokum?

It's a great illustration of America's most prominent church leader equivocating and backtracking and saying almost nothing coherent so that he will offend no one.

Let me lay it on the line: This is not the way Yeshua talked or behaved. It is not the example of the one whom Rick Warren claims to emulate and worship. There is nothing prophetic or biblical or courageous or principled about this kind of Christian witness.

If there is a subject upon which the Bible is crystal clear – from beginning to end – it is homosexuality. Another subject about which no one can misinterpret what the Bible says is marriage. Let's examine the text:

Leviticus 18:22 (KJV): "Thou shalt not lie with mankind, as with womankind: it is abomination."


Romans 1:22-27: "Professing themselves to be wise, they became fools, And changed the glory of the uncorruptible God into an image made like to corruptible man, and to birds, and four footed beasts, and creeping things. Wherefore God also gave them up to uncleanness through the lusts of their own hearts, to dishonour their own bodies between themselves: Who changed the truth of God into a lie, and worshipped and served the creature more than the Creator, who is blessed for ever. Amen. For this cause God gave them up unto vile affections: for even their women did change the natural use into that which is against nature: And likewise also the men, leaving the natural use of the woman, burned in their lust one toward another; men with men working that which is unseemly, and receiving in themselves that recompense of their error which was meet."

Some suggest Yeshua (Jesus) Himself was silent on these matters. Nothing could be further from the truth. First of all, Yeshua said He did not come to overturn the law but to fulfill it. He taught that He was and is the Word – its living fulfillment. He explained that He is eternal and created the Heavens, the Earth and man. The Bible also says God is the same yesterday, today and tomorrow. And Yeshua never contradicted any of the law. He quoted from it. He taught from it. He explained it. He affirmed it. On the road to Emmaus, He gave two disciples a Bible study from the Torah, revealing Himself at the very core of it.

The law, in fact, was the measuring stick by which He was judged perfect and worthy of serving as the atonement for the sins of mankind – including the sin of abominations like homosexuality.

But Yeshua also spoke very specifically and clearly on the subject about which Rick Warren appears so self-consciously waffling.

In Matthew 19:4-6, it says: "And he answered and said unto them, Have ye not read, that he which made them at the beginning made them male and female, And said, For this cause shall a man leave father and mother, and shall cleave to his wife: and they twain shall be one flesh? Wherefore they are no more twain, but one flesh. What therefore God hath joined together, let not man put asunder."

Here Yeshua had a golden opportunity to explain any middle ground in this issue of men and women – if there were any.

There is no middle ground on this issue.

Either you believe the Bible or you don't.

If you don't, there are consequences. If you do, you are obligated to take a stand for righteousness. Of course, there are worldly consequences for that, too – for some apparently too great to accept.

Followers of Yeshua have a choice: They can please God or please men. They can accept God's laws, which are not burdensome, and obey them, or they can reject them and try to tickle the ears of men. They can offend God or offend men.

But followers of Jesus cannot find some happy medium where they can please God and please the world. Nobody can.

It's time for America's pastor class to decide where they stand – with the world or with the God of the universe.


Joseph Farah is founder, editor and CEO of WND and a nationally syndicated columnist with Creators Syndicate. His book "Taking America Back: A Radical Plan to Revive Freedom, Morality and Justice" has gained newfound popularity in the wake of November's election. Farah also edits the online intelligence newsletter Joseph Farah's G2 Bulletin, in which he utilizes his sources developed over 30 years in the news business.


Hat Tip:

World Net Daily

Webcast For Marriage - Oct. 1st!

Important Webcast for Marriage!

While only those 18 and older will be voting on Proposition 8 next month, their decision will have the greatest impact on those unable to vote: children. Young people are constantly bombarded with messages in the media and at school that homosexuality and same-sex marriage are acceptable and good for our society. Many are confused by the conflict that arises between the culture and their family's morality. Pastor Miles McPherson of Rock Church in San Diego is particularly concerned about the impact of homosexuality on young people.

Tomorrow [TONIGHT! OCTOBER 1ST!] his church will hold a special rally for young people that will be broadcast throughout the state and nation. We encourage you to tune in and help young people you know better understand this crucial issue. The Fine Line: a Rally for Youth, Young Adults, and Parents

The Fine Line: a Rally for Youth, Young Adults, and Parents will be held at 7 p.m., Wednesday, October 1, 2008, at the Rock Church in San Diego. The non-partisan event is free and open to the public.

The Fine Line also will be broadcast live via satellite to approximately 150 churches throughout California who have signed up with the CCN Network. (Locations may be found by going to http://www.iprotectmarriage.com/.)

The iProtectMarriage.com website is also prepared to live stream the event to thousands of users statewide.


"The goal of The Fine Line is to equip and empower young people and their parents to engage on this issue, and go out and DO something," said Miles McPherson, senior pastor of the Rock Church, and a former professional football player with the San Diego Chargers. "The church is under attack. Marriage as designed by God, between a man and a woman, is under attack. We need to motivate young people to be informed, to be strong, to be out there in the real world, confident and active."

The event will be simulcast by Church Communication Network from the Rock Church, San Diego's largest Christian congregation and one of the fastest growing churches in the United States. Known for its multicultural and innovative worship and community service, the Rock features a high-tech sanctuary that seats 3,500. The Mountain View, Calif., based Church Communication Network provides programming in an array of ministry areas.

The youth-oriented evening will include music by rock groups the Katinas and Stellar Kart, and McPherson will speak. Live and video guests will include Ron Luce of Teen Mania, a youth outreach organization; Sean McDowell, a youth oriented Christian apologist; Greg Koukl of Stand to Reason, an organization that trains Christians to think clearly about their faith; Yvette Schneider of Exodus International, a nonprofit, interdenominational Christian organization promoting the message of freedom from homosexuality through the power of Jesus Christ; skate pros Brian Sumner and Christian Hosoi; and Kyle Loza, pro freestyle motocross rider and X Games gold medalist.

The program will culminate with an interactive panel in which speakers will present information on why we should vote yes Nov. 4 on Proposition 8, the Protect Marriage Amendment.

The Fine Line is one of three planned simulcast events in support of Proposition 8. Others include a broadcast presentation for pastors and Christian leaders which took place last Thursday, Sept. 25, and a future broadcast presentation to churches Sunday, Oct. 19.

Additional Resources:

The Rock Church

Exodus International

Sean McDowell

Stand To Reason

Teen Mania

Additional Upcoming Events to Support Proposition 8

The following are upcoming events sponsored by various Protect Marriage coalition members in support of Proposition 8.

Oct. 02, 2008 Orange County Protect Marriage Townhall
When: October 02, 2008
Where: Covenant Presbyterian Church (St. Andrews Hall)
1855 N. Orange Olive Road
Orange, CA 92865

Oct. 09, 2008 San Bernardino Protect Marriage Townhall
When: October 09, 2008
Where: Echos of Faith Christian Center
11255 Central Ave.
Ontario, CA 91762


Oct.11, 2008 Auburn Town Hall Rally
When: October 11, 2008
11:00 - 12:00 a.m.
Where: Auburn Library Garden Theater
350 Nevada St
Auburn, CA

Oct. 19, 2008 Ventura County Federalist Society, "Same-Sex Marriage in California: Legal Issues"
When: October 19, 2008
Where: California Lutheran University - Lundgren Events Center
60 West Olson Road
Thousand Oaks, CA 91360

More on Proposition 8


Donate to Yes On Proposition 8 Today!


Three R's of Proposition 8


The Ten Declarations For Protecting Biblical Marriage


Legal Rights of Pastors



Is Your Church Participating in Citizen Sunday?



The Legality of Voter Registration in Churches



Quotes on CHRISTIAN CIVIL DUTY

CHRISTIAN CIVIL DUTY

"Providence has given to our people the choice of their rulers, and it is the duty, as well as the privilege and interest of our Christian nation, to select and prefer Christians for their rulers."


-- John Jay, President of the Continental Congress
and first Chief Justice of the Supreme Court


"God commands you to choose for rulers, 'just men who will rule in the fear of God.' . . . if the citizens neglect their duty and place unprincipled men in office, the government will soon be corrupted."


-- Noah Webster, author of the first American dictionary


"When we [Christians] withhold our influence and participation, we yield by default to those who promote immoral and destructive policies."


-- Dr. James Dobson


"If America is to survive, we must elect more God-centered men and women to public office; individuals who seek Divine guidance in the affairs of state."


-- Rev. Billy Graham


THE RIGHT TO FREEDOM

"The rights of man come not from the generosity of the state, but from the hand of God."


-- President John F. Kennedy, 1961 Inaugural Address


"We believe that all men are created equal, because they are created in the image of God."


-- President Harry S Truman, 1948 Inaugural Address


"The founding fathers had to refer to the Creator in order to make their revolutionary experiment make sense; it was because "all men are endowed by their Creator with certain inalienable rights" that men could dare to be free."


-- President Dwight D. Eisenhower, in an article
for the Episcopal Churchnews Magazine



RELIGION AND MORALITY

"How could a society fail to perish if, while the political bond is relaxed [for freedom], the moral bond were not tightened? And what makes a people master of itself if it has not submitted to God?"


-- Alexis de Tocqueville, Democracy in America


"And let us with caution indulge the supposition that morality can be maintained without religion. Whatever may be conceded to the influence of refined education on minds of peculiar structure, reason and experience both forbid us to expect that national morality can prevail in exclusion of religious principle. It is substantially true that virtue or morality is a necessary spring of popular government."


-- President George Washington, 1796 Farewell Address


"Our Constitution was made only for a moral and religious people. It is wholly inadequate to the government of any other."


-- President John Adams, 1798 letter
to a Massachusetts militia division


"The principal of equality . . . follows inevitably from belief in the brotherhood of man through the fatherhood of God."


-- President Calvin Coolidge, 1924
address to the Holy Name Society


"The fundamental basis of our Bill of Rights comes from the teachings we get from Exodus and St. Matthew, from Isaiah and St. Paul. I don't think we can emphasize that enough these days.

"If we don't have a proper fundamental moral background, we will finally end up with a totalitarian government which does not believe in rights for anybody except the State."



-- President Harry S Truman, 1950 address
to the Attorney General's Conference





*Note: many of these quotes are taken from William J. Federer's Three Secular Reasons Why America Should Be Under God


HT: Yes On Proposition 8.com

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Update @ 9:34 a.m. PT:

Another Obamabot video that YOU MUST SEE!

Fox News Channel website asks:

YOU DECIDE! Obama Kids Video: Cute or Creepy?

Go and post your comments!!!
My vote? CREEPY!!!

HT: ChesterStreet where I originally got the chance to view the entire video.