A Chilling Thought: Islam or Bilderberg

DefendUSx has a post up today where he replies to the comments of a reader. With all of the successful stalling that is currently going on re: The Obama COLB issue, it is looking more and more likely that there are very powerful forces - even more powerful than originally thought - behind the election of Barack Hussein Obama.

If you are unfamiliar with "The Bilderberg Group," you can do a web search and find plenty of information. Here are a few of my previous posts about the group:

Bilderbergers Devious Corporate-Globalist Scheme?

What's Going On Behind the Curtain.

When Hillary Clinton was literally (and, actually illegally) "thrown under the bus" during the Democratic primary, many of her followers and constituents rejected the call for "party unity" under Obama's nomination and they started a group called "PUMA's" (Party Unity My A**). Many voted for John McCain and Sarah Palin.

As a Hillary supporter, Philip J. Berg started investigating Obama and discovered that he is ineligible for POTUS because he is not a Natural Born Citizen of the United States of America. If Obama's father was Obama Sr., then Obama Jr. is a British Citizen under the British Nationality Act because Kenya was under that jurisdiction in 1961. The point is, no matter WHERE Obama was actually born - either Kenya or Hawaii, the fact that his father (if his biological father is, in fact, Obama Sr. - there are rumors that his real father could be either Malcolm X (Little) or Frank Marshall Davis) WAS NEVER NATURALIZED TO THE U.S. means that he was never an "immigrant" to the U.S. (as Diane Feinstein claimed at the inauguration) and therefore never a U.S. Citizen. Obama JR. cannot possibly be a Natural Born Citizen of the U.S. (as is required by our U.S. Constitution for POTUS). He can only be a dual citizen if he naturalized back to the U.S. after his Indonesian citizenship was renounced. Some think that he may even be an illegal alien! Or, as the Dems would put it "undocumented immigrant." That first descriptive term is what Feinstein conveniently left out of her description of Obama Sr. at the inauguration.

Things are heating up in the Birth Certificate controversy. Here come the Where's the Birth Certificate billboards!

Also, Mario Apuzzo's Kerchner et al v Obama & Congress et al Lawsuit can't be ignored forever.

Back to DefendUSx's post. Here it is in it's entirety:

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My comments appear in blue below the reader's comments

I am just beginning to learn about Bilderberg - and the thought that comes to my mind after looking over the attendee list is this:

The one thing I noticed that gave me relief is that the closest thing to Islam represented there are two or three names from Turkey.

The Bilderberg group wants to include Islam in their plans for a One World Order, by having the Islamic countries subscribe to their world view and model of government. It will require some managed sharing and integration of cultures, they believe. You can see Britain is doing quite well with the new integration. The Group believes they must control the Islamic countries as a Trump card for Oil resources against China and Russia. It is why they chose Barack Hussein Obama, a Muslim with many deep ties to the Muslim world. The problem is, is that these arrogant idiots are too blind to see that Islam is working against their views, for their own World Order. An world order under Islam. I believe Obama is conducting two simultaneous agendas, one for the "Western Elite" who put him in power, and the other agenda for Islam.

I think that what will happen is that there are these two diametrically opposed forces bidding for complete global control and utter dominance.

Correct. I believe there are three dynamics (forces) at play for world domination. The "Western Elite" NWO, The Islamic NWO, and Chinese NWO models are all on a collision course with other with each passing day. I drew a diagram of these World Order agendas at work and the groups involved: See the diagram

One is secular (Bilderberg) and one is religious & fanatical (Islam). One is forward-thinking, one is backward in all it is and does. One wants to control the future, and one wants to obliterate the future (literally).

Exactly!

Bilderberg will have to devise a way to defeat or control Islam before it can contain & control the world. Islamic fanatics will ruin all of their hopes & dreams. Bilderberg's methods are to create and control chaos... if I understand it correctly.

Creating chaos is a means to increase control. The end justifies the means. For Islam, they have their man in office trying to avert, or claim the US for Islam, slowly but surely. Obama is in a very delicate position.

Hopefully it will not invite any Muslim leaders into its fold in order to accomplish this - even temporarily. Although that's what I would consider if I were them... but I bet that they have and have concluded that you could never trust Muslims. They would/will do to Bilderberg just what they do to everyone, everything else they touch: DESTROY.
I am sure Bilderberg is well aware of this - the fact that Islam is just as much a threat to them as they are to everyone else.

They are aware, but both camps are using "The pose as a friend, but be a spy" method. They will continue to use each other until one goes in for the kill.

I still am perplexed as to why they seem to be allowing the islamization of Europe, however... unless they think that Islam is a chaos they can control. (Good luck with that).

As stated before, they want cultural integration of Islam into their world views, but they do want to contain them and run the show. As you said, Muslims want to run this show.

We may end up with a choice of the lesser of two evils: Islam or Bilderberg.

Yes, but .. America is still here. If America continues to exist, both these groups are out of work

I am thinking, mulling, reflecting - and trying to learn fast. /unquote

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Those of us who doubt Obama's citizenship status for POTUS have caught on to Obama & his cohorts in crime goal. The destruction of the United States as we know it. We are all trying learn fast.

I'm wondering - does this "Bilderberg Group" have something to do with the ACORN takeover that whistle blower Marcel Reid reported about on Glenn Beck's show? Hmmm.... There is a TON OF MONEY going in, and apparently being given out to hundreds of various groups from out of that funeral home location in New Orleans. Coordination of such a huge enterprise must have some powerful people behind it - even bigger and more powerful than the Soros group.

Here is my comment posted over at DefendUSx's blog:

Power + money = control. We are seeing this happening right before our very eyes! Those who think that Obama is some kind of secular "messiah" are drinking the proverbial Jim Jones cult Kool-Aid of this era. This is to their detriment.

Your post reminded me of a photo I saw on the Zombietime website. Tried to find it, but was unable to. It appeared during an anti-war, anti-Israel rally in San Francisco. A man dressed in pro-Palestinian type clothes and head scarf walked down the street with a sign that read:

"Thank you S.F. liberals. You die last."

According to the reporter on scene there, such a sign didn't even raise an eyebrow amongst the "anti-war, peace at any cost - including loss of freedom, everybody loves everyone" liberal left lunatics who would agree with Janet Napolitano's re-phrasing of the War on Terror as an "Overseas Contingency Operation."

When people refuse to recognize the obvious war going on between the West and Radical Islam, they become sheep for the future slaughter - just as that sign tells us.

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P.S. As I glanced at Joel Rosenberg's headline today:

OBAMA TO SAY IT IS TIME TO DIVIDE JERUSALEM: No, Mr. President, it’s not.

the thought came to me that both the Bilderberg group (made up of liberal-left progressives who hate Israel and Zionism and side with Islam re: the so-called "land for peace" delusion) and the Islamic group (who hate Israel, period) competing for "world domination" have one thing in common - their hatred for Israel and intentions to divide, conquer and destroy the apple of God's Eye. It all fits under the prophecies of the end times.

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Another interesting post on the Bilderberg group:

Bilderberg Fears Losing Control in Chaos Plagued World

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World Net Daily has a great reference tool via its complete archive of news reports on the Obama citizenship issue:

THE FULL STORY
Is Obama constitutionally eligible to serve?
WND's complete archive of news reports on the issue

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Update:

New post:

Video: Alex Jones Bilderberg Club's plan

Also read the additional articles in the right sidebar at the site.

What's Going On Behind the Curtain [Add-On]

A few people have come here to this blog claiming that I'm a "tin foil hat" conspiracy theorist regarding Obama's "election" despite the fact that he is not a Natural Born Citizen of the United States of America. So be it. I'll wear that hat.

Even some Christians have taken me to task for constantly writing about the subject. Many have given up on the issue - they think that nothing can be done about it now. Perhaps they are correct. But I see MANY, MANY patriots continuing to fight against this usurpation of our government.

Today, I read an article that some may also consider as an additional "conspiracy theory." However, with the craziness that is going on in our nation via the Obamination Admin, the absolutely traitorous congressional actions (against the will of the people that they are SUPPOSED TO BE REPRESENTING!), and the impotence of our judiciary system; a lot of what is written in the following article makes sense. In fact, it makes MUCH MORE SENSE than what our current Lamestream Media of Mass Deception is putting out in front of us on a daily basis.

Below is the link to the article. It is WELL WORTH THE READ [comments there are very insightful as well] and I recommend that EVERYONE READS IT if you really want to know what's going on behind the "curtain" of Obamanomics, the "swine" flu hysteria, as well as all of the other details contained within the article. It sheds some light upon the perplexing struggle between the New World Order Marxists vs. the Islamic "Sharia" plans for such an existence. You will readily see why Obama wants to throw Israel "under the bus."

Northeast Intelligence Network - Investigating Threats to Our Homeland: From Anthrax to Zawahiri, searching for answers

Also see RepubX's comments in red which are interspersed within a copy of the same article.

Hat Tips:

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P.S. Back in September, 2008 I did a post with a link to a video of Dr. David Jeremiah explaining "Modern Europe...Ancient Rome" from his book and series: What In the World Is Going On? Ten Prophetic Clues You Cannot Afford to Ignore. BTW, IT IS WELL WORTH IT TO VIEW THE ENTIRE SERIES AND READ THE BOOK!

From an end times biblical perspective, viewing this video may help you to further understand the following comments over at Northeast Intelligence Network:

Marcel
May 11th, 2009 at 1:54 pm
Thanks for the great insight.lets keep our eyes on the prize, the only real prize.
What an amazing time to be alive to see the fulfillment of so much of God’s prophetic word before out eyes.
As for the oddities of what we see transpiring in America today, it can be none other than the fulfillment of Genesis 12:3, I will curse those who curse you.
Looking at every aspect of this once great nation from the economy to foreign policy it is cursed.
Israel is the stumbling block to the plans of Satan and his followers and for sure God is setting the trap for all the nations as they will surely come to the mountains of Israel in a grand colaition of hte willing to become food for the birds.
What an incredible time to see the soon coming Kingdom which will never be broken, Jesus return to Jerusalem, the center of the earth.
The NWO mixture of clay (democracy) and iron (Islam) today will be short lived and doomed from the start (shorter than Bubba Billy’s 8 year rule and Herr Bush’s 8 year rule.)
All that hard work and only 3 1/2 years for these losers and their agenda before Jesus brings it all down.
Thank God we do not have to be the blind following the blind elites to the eternal hot house God has prepared for them.



Mijadedios
May 11th, 2009 at 11:17 pm
I agree. I think your piece is Excellent. I see all your points made and believe they are valid with one exception. The Lens of Scripture can fill in all the holes! First, Syria..Isiah 17 addresses this issue. Ezekiel 38 & 39 address the Russia, Iran, Horn of Africa, and China issue. Daniel 7 & Rev. 17 address the 10 kings that will be evident soon…and the one who is pulling all the strings, that’s Anti-Christ, the Anti-Christ and he’ll be revealed soon also. I think it’s brilliant how the Lord is using all the NWO Bilderbergs/Trilaterial Commission, UN, EU, etc… to reveal what we’ve always known in Scripture! It’s all coming together and to those who Know HIM, Jesus Christ, this should not in anyway shake us, but make us stronger and trust that Jesus Christ will come again and all what has been said from Genesis to Revelation will come to pass. We live in exciting times! Your post, and this site has been a brillant Light in an ever increasingly dark and evil place. May the Lord God of Heaven cover you with protection! Maranatha!

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Update:

Another great chapter and video in the series!

VIDEO: Islamic Terrorism in the series "What In The World Is Going On? Ten Prophetic Clues You Cannot Afford to Ignore (note: if pressed for time, fast forward to the message at @ 20:30)

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Update and Add on:

Be sure to read Citizen Wells ongoing series:

PART 1: Obama Manchurian Candidate, socialists, radicals, leftist ties, Acorn, Saul Alinsky, Democratic Socialists of America, New Party

Obama Manchurian Candidate, Communist ties, Soviets, Russians, Marxist, CPUSA, Communist Party of the United States of America, Hawaii CP network, Frank Marshall Davis, Raila Odinga, Communist front organizations

And, though it is not a part of the series, read this:

Norman Thomas, Socialist Party of America, Leading American socialist, Liberalism, Presidential Candidate, Democratic Party has adopted our platform

Obama Manchurian Candidate, Communist goals 1963, The Naked Communist, Gain control of key positions in radio, TV, and motion pictures, Discredit the American Constitution by calling it inadequate, old-fashioned, out of step with modern needs, a hindrance to cooperation between nations on a worldwide basis

The fourth in the series will be posted next.

I found the commentary right before the article to be EXACTLY as I had also experienced in my childhood years!

I decided to provide this as Part 3 because of it’s historical significance and clarity of relativity to our current situation with the usurper Barack Obama.

I am part of the first wave of Baby Boomers and grew up in a time of keen awareness of the Soviet and communist threats. We had air raid drills in grade school and everyone watched motionless as reports of the Cuban Missile crisis were broadcast on TV. Daily we were made known that the communists planned on controlling the world with words from Nikita Kruschev that “We will bury you.” So the report below from the Congressional Record of 1963 has no surprises for me. However, it is a good reminder for me and a wake up call for younger generations. As, you read the statements below, I am certain they will resonate with you and you will instantly relate them to this now, four part series.

It puts the Kennedy assassination in a whole new light, too.

I can still recall how I felt when we learned at school on Friday, November 22, 1963that President John F. Kennedy was assassinated!! Even though I was just eight years old, that horribly shattering event was the 9/11 of that era. I remember walking home from school absolutely stunned that someone would murder the President of the United States of America.

I didn't feel safe when our school did the bomb shelter drills. An alarm would go off throughout the school. It was that shrill, air raid low-to-high crescendo type alarm - different from the usual "ding ding ding" of the fire alarm bell so that teachers could distinguish between the two drills. We would go down to the basement and huddle alongside the cold wall in that dark hallway, cringing in fright just thinking that if it had been a real emergency, bombs might be dropping all around us.

It was probably my first experience of how very dangerous the "real world" is.

When President Kennedy was shot and killed, I realized what kind of terrible evil men can inflict upon each other.

Forty-six years later, now born again in Christ with over 25 years of Bible study, the fear of the "real world" hasn't dissipated, but knowing that I am "not of this world" as Jesus said and knowing what I need to know to be confident in my salvation and relationship with Christ, helps me to see the past, present and future for what it truly is. At the culmination of history, Christ will return for His own. No matter what happens here on this earth, the future and eternity is in His mighty hands.

Meanwhile, I will watch, learn and work for "the time is near." I will go about my duties as a Christian - in the here and now - to fight for what is right; as both a patriotic American and follower of Jesus Christ. My utmost duty is to share the gospel of Jesus Christ with all who come to this blog.

Bilderbergers - Devious Corporate-Globalist Scheme?

When something is placed before my eyes several times within one weekend here on the Internet, I sit up, take notice, and get the feeling that perhaps I should blog about it. I didn't want to blog about several conspiracy theories that have been "out there" for quite some time. However, they kept popping up over the last two days and perhaps readers here might want to share their opinions on them.

The first is the 9/11 "truthers" conspiracy theory that our government was behind (or, in some conspiracy theorists minds - was "allowed" to happen despite our government knowing about it in advance) the 9/11 terrorist attacks.

The second is called the "Bilderberg group" conspiracy.

Here's how I got involved in a discussion of the 9/11 "truther" conspiracy.

Over at Citizen Well's blog, a commenter named "Marty Didier" wrote several off-topic comments claiming that he knew certain secrets that not many others would have been in a position to know about 9/11.

You can go to the link above and scroll down to read his comments. In fact, the blog owner shares some additional comments that Mr. Didier wrote at his blog in the past.

If you read the comments, it appears that Didier is linking the Clintons, Bush, and Obama into a "Political Mafia." However, most of his bashing rhetoric seems to be against the Clintons and Bush.

One commenter must have noticed and asked:

Maddie // March 12, 2009 at 9:00 pm

Hi Marty,
Only 1 question: will you be telling us more here
that will involve Obama?
thanks.

This is where I felt led to reveal some doubts about Mr. Didier's credibility:

Christinewjc // March 12, 2009 at 10:05 pm

Sorry if this makes me into a “party pooper,” but I have my doubts about some things that “Marty Didier” has written.

Ronald Reagan once said, “Trust, but verify.”

The part that rang the alarm bells about him for me was when he wrote:

“I was told all about 911 in 1996 however at that time they were reviewing three sites and New York was one of them. “

Told by whom?
Is he claiming that our government planned the 9/11 attacks?

I draw the line of credibility with that one statement. IMO - he is not credible if this is what he believes.

Then, others chimed in:

JJ // March 12, 2009 at 10:42 pm

Christine previously wrote: Told by whom?
Is he claiming that our government planned the 9/11 attacks?

Not exactly——technically, they just allowed it to happen…………….read ‘Crossing the Rubicon’ by Michael Ruppert and more of Devvy Kidd’s research and it’s all over the net.
Lots of pictures, books, and material out there if you still believe that 19 Islamic terrorists with box cutters defeated a multi-billion dollar defense system and attacked the most guarded building on this planet, the Pentagon.

I thought, "Oh great...there are two truthers over there to refute."

Then, Jacqlyn Smith shared her doubts about him, too:

Jacqlyn Smith // March 12, 2009 at 11:35 pm

I’m with you Christine….This Marty person must be checked out before we go passing this information on to anyone. CW….do you know if what he writes is legit???

Mr. Didier then wrote another long comment.

I wrote:

Christinewjc // March 13, 2009 at 6:52 pm

I don’t believe you Mr. Didier. The “truther” theories about 9/11 being an inside gov’t job have been debunked - scientifically.

Those who choose to believe that crap have every right to do so.

But I don’t. (believe that crap)

Then, JJ replied again:

JJ // March 14, 2009 at 12:46 pm

Christinewjc // March 13, 2009 at 6:52 pm

Christine previously wrote: I don’t believe you Mr. Didier. The “truther” theories about 9/11 being an inside gov’t job have been debunked - scientifically.

Those who choose to believe that crap have every right to do so.

But I don’t.

(I have 90 items for you to debunk if you believe that 19 Islamic terrorists with box cutters defeated a multi-billion dollar defense system to take down the most guarded building on this planet, namely the Pentagon)

OK...it was now time to set these people straight from their crazy conspiracy theory about 9/11.

Christinewjc // March 14, 2009 at 1:45 pm
JJ -
You probably won’t believe otherwise, but I will share two links that show you are wrong.

Perhaps others here who may be absolutely aghast about your accusations will be glad to see the truth of the matter.

Photos Of Flt 77 WreckageInside The PentagonExclusive Photos & Story

Popular Mechanics: Debunking the 9/11 Myths

Christinewjc // March 14, 2009 at 1:49 pm

Sorry. That previous link began at “page 2.”

Debunking the 9/11 Myths

Special Report: Popular Mechanics examines the evidence and consults the experts to refute the most persistent conspiracy theories of September 11.

Then, a blogger wrote:

MB // March 14, 2009 at 3:58 pm

google bilderberg group

google narcissist and Obama

I didn't google them. Didn't have to because the very next day (today) I found links to blogs with information about the Bilderberg group.

The first link was to someone named "Alex Jones" who just released (today) a documentary video on his site called, "The Obama Deception."

Here is a link to a review of the movie and the 1 hour, 53 min. YouTube video is also there on the page.

I watched the first few minutes. But when Jones turned out to be another 9/11 "truther," I decided to fast forward to the last 30 minutes of the film. I had read on another blog post that the last 30 minutes was "truly frightening."

It is difficult to accept such a huge conspiracy theory about many of the past presidential administrations. For me, I draw the line at believing that 9/11 was an "inside job." Perhaps you disagree with me and think that Alex Jones, Mr. Didier, and JJ are correct in their views. So be it.

Moving on, I discovered a blog post over at Politico.com about - you guessed it - the Bilderberg group.

Bilderbergers excite conspiracists.

I read the article, but plan on going back to read the 101 comments tomorrow.

So...readers...what's your take on all of this?

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