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"As In The Days Of Noah" Revisited [Update!]

I have noticed an upward trend in my stats lately where people are searching for information regarding the biblical view of same-sex "marriage."  New York state recently approved a bill giving the right for same-sex couples to marry.  Perhaps that is the main reason why those who oppose the deviancy of same sex unions are searching for answers as to why such a decision is bad lawmaking.

If you have followed this blog, you may have already read a post dated back in 2008 entitled The Days of Noah Are Here.

While checking a Bing search, I found two interesting posts on this topic.

1. True Discernment: Jesus, The Days of Noah, and Same Sex Marriage informs us further:


Excerpt:

Jesus said in Luke 17:26-30, “And as it was in the days of Noe, so shall it be also in the days of the Son of man. They did eat, they drank, they married wives, they were given in marriage, until the day that Noe entered into the ark, and the flood came, and destroyed them all. Likewise also as it was in the days of Lot; they did eat, they drank, they bought, they sold, they planted, they builded; But the same day that Lot went out of Sodom, it rained fire and brimstone from heaven, and destroyed them all. Even thus shall it be in the day when Son of man is revealed.”

Jesus being a first century Rabbi, like most Jewish teachers, coupled Sodom with the flood generation as a typical image of evil. His intent was to inform his audience that at His second coming the conditions of the world would mirror Noah’s days and the days of Sodom and Gomorrah.

As in the Days of Noah

The Midrash Rabbah Genesis is a specific form of rabbinic literature of ancient Judaism commentaries of the Hebrew Scriptures. It is based on the interpretation of the Torah (Old Testament). It speaks about the subject of same-sex marriage during the days of Noah.

The rabbis wrote in the Midrash Rabbah Genesis that the flood in Noah’s day was primarily triggered when males starting writing marriage deeds with other males, and between men and beasts (bestiality). Based on the account of Midrash Rabbah Genesis, same-sex marriages took place during the days of Noah. There was nothing new under the sun and this is stated by Solomon in Ecclesiastes 1:9. Lot in Sodom and Gomorrah is synonymous with the destruction of the flood generation in Midrash Rabbah Genesis. It states in the Midrash Rabbah Genesis that Lot pleaded all night for mercy for the Sodomites, and that the angels permitted him to plead for them. But once the people said, “… bring them out [the angels] so we may have sex with them,” mercy ran out. The angels told Lot, “for now on you have no right to plead anymore.” Judgment was sent upon Sodom. Flood water was the judgment of God on the people in Noah’s day. Fire and brimstone was the judgment against Sodom and Gomorrah.

The blog author explains that the book of Enoch is not inspired, and thus not part of the canon of Scripture, however the book of Jude contains some quotes from it. Enoch is being used by the author as a good reference resource.

Excerpt:

The book of Enoch was written before the birth of Christ and although it is not an inspired book, it is a good resource. Parts of it are quoted in Jude 14-15. 2nd Enoch 34-1, 3-4 states, “God convicts the persons who are idol worshipers and sodomite fornicators, and for this reason he brings down the flood upon them. And all the world will be reduced to confusion by iniquities, wickedness and abominable fornications. That is, friend with friend in anus, every other kind of wicked uncleanness which is almost too disgusting to report, and the worship of the evil one. And that is why I shall bring down the flood onto the earth, and shall destroy everything, and the earth itself will collapse in great darkness.” Second Enoch states that perverse homosexual relationships were the main cause of the flood. Both Midrash Rabbah Genesis and the second book of Enoch state that God frowns on homosexuality in cultic prostitution, and in so-called “loving consensual” homosexual relationships. So don’t believe the liberal Christian theologians, gay-affirming churches and inclusionists. Homosexuality and same-sex marriage are an abomination in God’s eyesight.


I was pleased to see that the author linked to my blogging friend DL Foster's GCM Watch: Why Gay Marriage And Why Now?

John, the blog author concludes:

GCM Watch’s article on June 24, 2008, “Gay Marriage: the ‘days Noah’ return” examined the fact that same-sex marriage caused the flood in Noah’s day in the Babylonian Talmud. The Talmud is the interpretation of the Hebrew scriptures 1000 years before Christ.

The True Church of the Lord Jesus Christ is the prophetic voice to this world. Repent, for the Kingdom of Heaven is at hand! We must be prepared to start looking up for our redemption draweth nigh. We must get the gospel message out and call sinners both in and out of the church to repentance. Acts 3:23 says, “And it shall come to pass, that every soul, which shall not hear that prophet, shall be destroyed among the people.” That Prophet is Jesus.

YOUR WARNING IS BEING SERVED!!!

Jeremiah 6:10 says, “To whom shall I speak and give warning, that they hear? Behold, their ear is uncircumcised, and they cannot hearken: behold, the word of the Lord is unto them a reproach; they have no delight in it.” If you continue to believe that same-sex marriage is right, if you scoff at the Word of God, if you ridicule the true Bible-believing Christians as ignorant and small minded, let the Sword of the Spirit circumcise your spiritual ear to receive the truth…or believe a lie and be damned.

So you see, dear readers, as Solomon so wisely stated there really is "nothing new under the sun" when it comes to the homosexual agenda!

I know friends and relatives (some Christian, some I'm not sure about) who don't see what the big deal is about this subject. It is as if their minds have been seared with anything but the truth of God! When the God of the Bible tells us that homosexual behavior is sin and that marriage is the union of one man and one woman, who are we to try and change such truths?

But people still try. They use every weapon of human error in order to get their way here on this earth.   But every person who dismisses what I am sharing here must ask themselves this question, "what about how it will affect your eternal destiny?" Isn't that even more important than the here and now? I think so.

People will call Bible-based Christian believers every negative name they can think of. They accuse us of not being "tolerant." But what they truly mean is that they want total acceptance of their aberrant behavior!  Sorry, but no can do! I follow my Lord and Savior and it is HIS morality and ethics and values that carry truth and meaning in this brief life on earth.  What HE THINKS of such matters mean more to me than what those who accept or defend such abominable behavior think of me for speaking out against it.

God has given us every indication to teach us that homosexual behavior is dangerous.  It is sinful, unhealthful, prideful, abominable in God's eyes, and yet mankind STILL wants to push such an agenda upon the world.

And, if you are reading here today and happen to be Jewish, do you follow what these ancient Jewish writings tell you about the sin of homosexual behavior? Or, are you a leftist who follows the whims of men rather than the God of the Old Testament?

What's more, several days ago the UN took it upon themselves as a (so-called) "governing" body to Endorse Gay Rights for the First Time Ever.

We can see how correct Jesus was when he told us that the closer we will get to the end times, the more our world will look (again!) like "in the Days of Noah" and "in the Days of Lot."

The following link has much more!

The World Is Shaking Blogspot: Satan's Very Successful Lie Points to The End of the Age.

Please go to the link to read it all. Here are some devastating paragraphs to consider:

It may sound curious as to why any human would declare PRIDE in the practicing of a deviation from normal; a deviation that actually caused the G-d of creation to send the Flood and to annihilate Sodom and Gomorrah to the point that the region is now the lowest place on Earth.

However, when we research, we find that PRIDE is the root of all sin and the express reason that Lucifer, Satan, was cast out of Heaven.


If Satan, the enemy of mankind, can delude people into actually being proud of sinful rebellion against God and His law; then he is more likely to successfully win their souls to spending eternity in hell with him, when he is cast into the lake of fire.


When there is pride in sin, then repentance is rare. The enemy is well aware of this. That is why he continues to delude and foster "pride" in this deviant, sinful behavior.

This age old plan by the enemy is fast gaining ground.

People who are cheering on (or participating in) the homosexual agenda have been caught up in a lie - one of the most successful lies (unfortunately) to be perpetuated by the enemy of our souls - Satan.

The letters being used to identify all of the sexual deviance's (G = "gay" male; L = lesbian; B = bi-sexual; T = transgender; Q = questioning - or sometimes queer) are all examples of defiant, sinful, unrepentant men and women shaking their fists at the God of the Bible and denying His Will for their sexual lives.

The blog author, Gina Suzanne, concludes:



The rainbow is a symbol which has been adopted to represent homosexuality. After the flood of Noah, the rainbow was given by God as His promise to mankind to never again flood the earth.


Genesis 9:12 And God said: “This is the sign of the covenant which I make between Me and you, and every living creature that is with you, for perpetual generations: 13 I set My rainbow in the cloud, and it shall be for the sign of the covenant between Me and the earth.

The fact that the rainbow has been chosen to represent the very purpose for which the earth had to be flooded to begin with, exposes Lucifer's hand.

Satan, in his pride, always tries to mock God. The rainbow symbol is mocking the rainbow Covenant made by God to man after the Flood.

Interestingly the homosexual rainbow has six colors and the true rainbow, given by God, has seven.

Notable is the fact that number six, as in the well known 666 of the antichrist, is associated with Satan and the number seven is God's number of completeness and perfection.
Even the very order of God's created nature proves that homosexuality is wrong. He made all living creature to procreate.


In fact, after the flood, God instructed Moses and his sons to "be fruitful and multiply":

Genesis 9:1 Then God blessed Noah and his sons, saying to them, “Be fruitful and increase in number and fill the earth. The mere fact that homosexuals cannot reproduce should evidence that this is abnormal and deviant behavior that should elicit shame and not pride.
Since homosexuals cannot reproduce, they recruit. This is what is one of the driving forces of the "gay pride" movement. They try to force homosexuality as "normal" and into the limelight in order to recruit.


Satan hates humans because we are made in God's image. The more humans that deviate into homosexual behavior the less amount of humans there will be as homosexuals, whose behavior is contrary to what God intended for His creation, cannot reproduce.

Genesis 9:6 "...for in the image of God has God made mankind."


Homosexuality thus leads to less human beings and this is why Satan deludes people into thinking it is normal and something to be "proud" of, due to his hatred of mankind.


Also, to the devil's satisfaction, homosexuality means more human company for him in hell.


Those who practice this sin or any other unrepentant sinful lifestyle will descend into the pit and be in torment for eternity.


Satan is the Father of Lies and this is one of his favorites that he is trying to propagate. His ultimate goal is to make this sin accepted as "normal" so as to tempt more humans into practicing it.


Sadly, there are actually churches that call themselves "Christian" which promote homosexuality as both normal and acceptable.


The apostate leaders of these churches convey that since God is a God of love, He loves homosexuals for who they are. God does love homosexuals, just as He loves all sinners.


However, in the same vein, He cannot condone and wink at their unrepentant sin just as He cannot with any type of sin that continues unabated.


These blasphemers fail to convey to their deluded church members the truth: that God is also a God of righteousness judgment, who cannot allow sin in His Holy presence.


Homosexuality is breaking God's law and thus is a sin. Those who practice it are therefore living a lifestyle of continuous sin.


Just like any other unrepentant sinners, if homosexuals die in their sin, they cannot be allowed into Heaven,into God's Holy presence.


Therefore, to the enemy of men's souls, his escalating the promotion of gay PRIDE equates to LESS humans born on earth and MORE humans being cast into hell!


1 Corinthians 6:9-10 - "Do you not know that the wicked will not inherit the kingdom of God? Do not be deceived: Neither the sexually immoral nor idolaters nor adulterers nor male prostitutes nor homosexual offenders nor thieves nor the greedy nor drunkards nor slanderers nor swindlers will inherit the kingdom of God."

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P.S.  I have several blogging friends who once practiced homosexual behavior but are now released from both the behavior and identity because of salvation of their souls through Jesus Christ!  I have heard many life stories about their transitions out of that lifestyle.  One common theme is the non-acceptance (and often hateful rhetoric) hurled at them by the GLBTQ people and organizations.  Why is that??  If these GLBTQ people pride themselves on "tolerance," why are they often the most intolerant of others desires to leave homosexuality? 

I think we all most likely know the answer to that question...

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Interesting Update!

I did a search to see which color of God's rainbow is missing from the homosexual pride rainbow.

Here is the identity of the seven colors of God's rainbow:


Answer:
Always remember the name ROY G. BIV
Red, Orange, Yellow. Green, Blue, Indigo, and Violet.

Or Richard Of York Gave Battle In Vain - a reference to the War of the Roses. English history and science both at once.

Read more:
Then, on another page I read this:

Schueller House.comSeven Colors of the Rainbow (Hat Tip)

The color that is missing from the homosexual rainbow flag is the color blue. It only has the indigo color - dark blue. Read what the author has to say about the blue color of the sky:

Blatant sexuality in the world has made it hard for people to remember the possibility of delicate feelings, of personal intimacy that occupies the private world inside and has no need to compete with what happens elsewhere. Modesty is not inadequacy; boundaries are not restrictions. If anyone asks the reason why, then the answer only has to be that there are laws for people's lives just as there are laws for the natural world: “Things are made to fall down, not up, and I'm doing as I was made to do.”

This law corresponds to the blue color in the rainbow. Blue is the purest color and the closest to white, which represents original knowledge and truth. Blue is the color of the sky, a cool, soothing color, and it signifies the fulfillment of kindness and love, their peaceful nature which brings us near to heaven.

WHY vs WHY Gay Marriage

The day that my husband and I went to our daughter's high school (back in 2003) to express our concern over a gay/straight club that was forming at the school, we knew that the homosexual legal agenda would only get worse and worse. We were absolutely correct!

Read and weep - dear Christian parents - about what is being taught to children as young as 6 years old in public schools in California.

Within the next few days, I am going to share my thoughts and opinions about an excellent resource where parents can come right out (pardon the pun) and combat the intense homosexual indoctrination that is going on in public schools.

Your teen aged children (especially here in California) have probably already been so indoctrinated to think that homosexuality is "normal," "natural," and not sinful. The Bible tells us otherwise and our churches are trying to combat the onslaught with the truth about such abhorrent behavior.  However, it also helps (IMHO) to encourage children to read and study BOTH sides of the issue so that they can feel empowered to make up their own minds on the issue.  Some may not budge because they are too indoctrinated, but many may change there minds when they read the facts from those on the pro- one man, one woman marriage issue that are NOT being taught in the public schools.

The resource that I am referring to is a book written by Christian Internet author and blog writer Bill Muehlenberg and his secular co-author and gay activist, Rodney Croome.  It is called Why vs. Why Gay Marriage and presents both arguments regarding the gay marriage issue.  Bill's blog is called Culture Watch. At that site, Bill has years worth of excellent information that anyone can utilize in the ongoing battle between good and evil. His essays are chock full of important evaluations on many subjects regarding Christian faith and values vs. secular humanism and depravity. I highly recommend his blog and the book Why vs. Why Gay Marriage. If your child has been indoctrinated by the radical homosexual agenda, reading that book will give him/her the REAL story behind how, and why, he/she has been duped into believing man's "wisdom" that such behavior is "good." He/she may even discover that the timeless wisdom of God Almighty trumps man's thoughts EVERY TIME.

What is interesting is that the co-author, Rodney Croome (pro gay marriage) brings up "religion" in his argument and Bill just blows that argument right out of the water with his excellent rebuttal!

You can get a copy of the book at Amazon.com.

The following is a copy of an email that I received from Randy Thomasson, President of SaveCalifornia.com. Please take the time to read it all and visit the links within the text. If you are not appalled by learning about al the seven radical homosexual indoctrination bills that have been passed by the Democratic-led state legislature here in California, then you must have been brain-dirtied by all of the propaganda that the activists are spewing that goes entirely against what God's Holy Word in the Bible teaches against the BEHAVIOR of homosexual acts - which God's Word specifically says are to be avoided.

Next, get a copy of Why vs. Why Gay Marriage to arm yourself with the powerful and POSITIVE arguments that Bill Muehlenberg has shared in that book to counter co-author Rodney Croome's indoctrination arguments.

In Christ's Service,
Christine

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Randy's email:


SAVECALIFORNIA.COM NEWS RELEASE
FOR IMMEDIATE RELEASE -- April 14, 2011

California Senate mandates homosexual role models for schoolchildren
Thomasson: "Parents don't want and children don't need 'LGBTIQ' role models"
 
Sacramento, California – With today's passage by the Democrat-controlled California State Senate of "lesbian, gay, bisexual, and transgender Americans" as mandatory role models for children as young as kindergarten, SaveCalifornia.com, a leading West Coast pro-family, pro-child organization is calling upon California parents to permanently remove their children from the government school system.

Today, the California Senate, on a 23 to 14 vote -- Democrats for, Republicans against -- approved what would be the 7th school sexual indoctrination law teaching children to view homosexuality, bisexuality, and transsexuality as a good and natural lifestyle option. The vote comes the day before the disruptive "Day of Silence" in public schools, sponsored by the "Gay, Lesbian and Straight Education Network," which SaveCalifornia.com is urging parents to counter-protest by keeping their kids home this Friday.

SB 48 would mandate that history and social studies textbooks and instructional materials teach children to admire "lesbian, gay, bisexual, and transgender Americans" as role models. The proponents of the bill seem to have forgotten there are already six statewide school sexual indoctrination laws affirming homosexuality, bisexuality, and transsexuality.

"This clear and present danger should motivate fathers and mothers to rescue their children from California government schools and take them to the safe havens of solid church schools and homeschooling," said Randy Thomasson, president of SaveCalifornia.com. "Parents don't want and children don't need 'LGBTIQ' role models in school, SB 48 is sexual brainwashing in the extreme. It's damaging and nonacademic to teach children a lie -- that homosexuality, bisexuality, and transsexuality are natural and healthy lifestyles, when they’re not."

(Sources: NARTH: "Is There A 'Gay Gene?'"; American College of Pediatricians: "Health Risks of the Homosexual Lifestyle")

"SB 48 micromanages public schools by forcing teachers, administrators, local school boards, textbooks, and instructional materials to promote a gaggle of sexual lifestyles that disturb parents and confuse kids," Thomasson said. "This state mandate targets children for sexual brainwashing, behind the backs of parents, teaching boys and girls to admire those who engage in unnatural and unhealthy homosexual, bisexual, and transsexual behavior."

If SB 48 becomes law:

1. Textbooks and instructional materials must positively promote "lesbian, gay, bisexual, and transgender Americans" as "role" models.

2. Children as young as 6 years old will be taught to admire homosexuality, same-sex "marriages," bisexuality, and transsexuality (sex-change operations).

3. Children will be taught to support the political activism of "Lesbian, Gay, Bisexual, Transgender, Intersex and Questioning" (LGBTIQ) political groups, as the bill requires "particular emphasis on portraying the role of these groups in contemporary society."

4. Teachers will be made to positively portray homosexuality, same-sex "marriages," bisexuality, and transsexuality (sex-changes operations), because to be silent can bring the charge of "reflecting adversely."

5. School boards will be required to select textbooks and other instructional materials that positively portray sex-change operations, same-sex "marriages," and more, because to be silent on these subjects opens them up to charges of "reflecting adversely."

6. Parents will not be notified, nor will they be able to exempt their children, from this new core curriculum.

"California government schools are no longer morally safe for impressionable children," Thomasson said. "Because of the raft of sexual indoctrination laws already in force, which promote homosexuality, bisexuality, and transsexuality under the guise of 'discrimination' and 'harassment,' the social engineers are already having their way with more than six million boys and girls, with or without SB 48. That's why we strongly urge loving parents to rescue their children by permanently removing them from government schools and placing them in the safe havens of church schools or homeschooling." (Source: RescueYourChild.com)

"We call on Governor Jerry Brown to have compassion, to respect parents, and to remember when public schools used to be good and didn't push sexual indoctrination," Thomasson said. "Now public schools aren't so good, yet homosexual activists are pushing their non-academic agenda without regard to parents or logic or the best interests of children. Governor Brown should prepare to veto this bad bill, which greatly disturbs parents, confuses kids, and flushes public schools farther down the toilet."

-- end --
SaveCalifornia.com
Randy Thomasson, President
P.O. Box 511, Sacramento, CA 95812
(916) 265-5650
http://www.savecalifornia.com/

SaveCalifornia.com is a leading West Coast nonprofit, nonpartisan organization standing strong for moral virtues for the common good. We represent children and families in the areas of marriage and family, parental rights, the sanctity of human life, religious freedom, financial freedom, and back-to-basics education.


Hat tips to all links.
Special thanks to Bill Muehlenberg for telling me about his excellent book, Why vs. Why Gay Marriage.

The Homosexual Agenda is a Spiritual Problem

One homosexual judge overturned the votes of 7 million California voters! What could be more unfair, undemocratic, unconstitutional and outrageously biased against the state of California, biased against the majority of voters in our state, and radically disparaging against our Constitutional Republic than that?

Christian News Wire:

Chief Judge of Federal District Court in San Francisco Vaughn R. Walker Overturns Proposition 8
Contact: Karen England, Capitol Resource Institute, 916-212-5607

MEDIA ADVISORY, Aug. 4 /Christian Newswire/ -- Proposition 8, the 2008 California Constitutional amendment defining and recognizing marriage between a man and a woman, suffered a severe blow. Judge Walker ruled against the voters who approved Proposition 8 by 52 percent of the vote.

After California's Supreme Court overturned proposition 22, the statute approved by voters defining marriage, the voters took to the polls in reaction to the court's judicial activism.

"Today's ruling is indicative of an out-of-control judiciary willing to circumvent California's direct democracy by imposing their point of view," said Karen England Executive Director of Capitol Resource Institute (CRI). "Family values are under constant assault now more then ever. CRI was instrumental in passing proposition 22 in 2000 and we fought to get proposition 8 on the ballot and subsequently in California's Constitution. We will continue to battle interest groups who wish to redefine one of our oldest institutions; the institution of marriage. We will continue to represent the 7 million Californians who took to the polls in favor of marriage."

The case will head to the U.S. 9th Circuit Court of Appeals, a court popularly known for its left-of-center rulings.


Homosexuality isn't just a behavioral problem. It isn't just a "rights" problem. It isn't just a legal problem. It isn't just an emotional problem. It is a spiritual problem.

Even though the following essay was written years ago, Pastor DL Foster's Gay Christian Movement Watch: Gay Marriage - the Days of Noah Return post is one of the best I've ever read on the topic.

As you read the post at GCMWatch, you will notice a link between the "Days of Noah" and the "Days of Lot." This was an awesome discovery! Jesus himself likened the "signs of the times" of his return as being "as in the days of Lot" and "as in the days of Noah."

Excerpt:

Folger recounts how what we are seeing happen now before our very eyes is the beginning fulfillment of what Jesus said would happen before his return. Moreover, the people had sunken into such a perpetually degenerative moral condition these things were celebrated and viewed as normal.

As I wrote about in my book, “The Criminalization of Christianity,” Jeffrey Satinover, who holds an M.D. from Princeton and doctorates from Yale, MIT and Harvard, was on my radio program one day and I asked him about where we are in history. He explained that according to the “Babylonian Talmud” – the book of rabbis’ interpretation of the scriptures 1,000 years before Christ, there was only one time in history that reflects where we are right now. There was only one time in history, according to these writings, where men were given in marriage to men, and women given in marriage to women.

Want to venture a guess as to when? No, it wasn’t in Sodom and Gomorrah, although that was my guess. Homosexuality was rampant there, of course, but according to the Talmud, not homosexual “marriage.” What about ancient Greece? Rome? No. Babylon? No again. The one time in history when homosexual “marriage” was practiced was … during the days of Noah. And according to Satinover, that’s what the “Babylonian Talmud” attributes as the final straw that led to the Flood.


Folger’s article also contains astonishing commentary by Rabbi Aryeh Spero on what the Talmud reveals about homosexuality, state sanctioned homosexual weddings and the coming judgment of God.

25But first must He [Christ] suffer many things and be rejected by this generation. 26And as it was in the days of Noah, so shall it be also in the days of the Son of Man:
27They ate, they drank, they married wives, they were given in marriage, until the day that Noah entered into the ark, and the flood came and destroyed them all. 28“Likewise also as it was in the days of Lot: They ate, they drank, they bought, they sold, they planted, they built; 29but the same day that Lot went out of Sodom, it rained fire and brimstone from heaven and destroyed them all. 30“Even thus shall it be in the Day when the Son of Man is revealed.


Notice that Jesus compared Noah’s day to Sodom and Gomorrah and then linked it to the time of his return.

Because the inhabitants of the earth had become so evil, God anointed Noah to preach righteousness and repentance right up until the time the door of the ark closed shut. He preached the same message for over 100 years. This was the mercy of God in action, a window of opportunity to repent. Some listened at first, but then overcome by the sin around them, eventually ignored Noah. Noah was openly vilified, mocked and called a liar. Why? Because the people saw no rain and they did not want to believe their activities were wrong.


Read the entire essay HERE.


In June of 2008, I linked to Pastor Foster's post and wrote an essay here at Talk Wisdom:

The Days of Noah Are Here.


Hat Tips:

Christian News Wire

Gay Christian Movement Watch

Obama's "Boys Night Out" Birthday?


So....it's Obama's birthday. Just heard on talk radio news that Barack is having a "boys night out" to celebrate his birthday. His wife is on a trip to Spain with daughter Sasha, and daughter Malia is reported to be at a camp.

Hmmm....

It seems that many people are speculating about what Obama will be doing in Chicago during his "boys night out."

[Note: Consider this post another "Talk Wisdom Reports - You Decide" kind of report.]

If you don't know the history of Obama's secret life, go read Hillbuzz: Someone in the national media is FINALLY interested in Man’s Country in Andersonville.

Also see Zack Jones Is Home: White House’s Got Talent – Journolists and Malice – American Thinker – Journolist Update – Daily Caller – Larry Sinclair – Mom of Murdered Obama Gay Lover Speaks Up – Fellowship of the Minds – Natural Born Citizen – WND – Obama & Lockerbie Bomber – Obama’s Herd Health Program – American Thinker – and More – The BOPAC Report

Here's an excerpt from Zack's long list of reports and information:

From Fellowship of the Minds:

Mom of Murdered Obama Gay Lover Speaks Up

July 25, 2010 ·
In late May, investigative journalist Wayne Madsen had a bombshell revelation about Obama’s membership in a Chicago gay man’s club. Madsen also reported on the Sociopath’s sexual relationships with other men, including politicians and Donald Young, the openly gay choir director of the church in Chicago of which Obama was a member for some 20 years — Jeremy Wright’s Trinity United Church of Christ black liberation theology. Obama’s relationship with Young was confirmed by Larry Sinclair, who claims to have had two sex-cocaine trysts with Obama.

There were two other openly gay men in Wright’s church: Larry Bland and Nate Spencer. In late 2007, as Obama began his ascent to be the Democratic Party’s presidential nominee, in a span of 1½ months, all three men “conveniently” died:

Bland was murdered execution-style on November 17, 2007;
Young was murdered execution-style on December 24, 2007;
Spencer reportedly died of septicemia, pneumonia, and HIV on December 26, 2007.
Death certificates of Bland and Young, HERE.

Now, Young’s elderly mother is speaking out about her suspicions that her son was murdered to protect Obama’s reputation and assure his political future as President.

~Eowyn

White House ramps up damage control over Obama Chicago gay history
Wayne Madsen Report – July 19, 2010
The story about President Barack Obama’s bi-sexual past will not go away….Continue Reading


Just visited that first link from the excerpted quote above. It's a must read!

Fellowship Of Minds: Washington Insider - Obama Member of Chicago Gay Mans Club

Comment there:

Gerald // May 29, 2010 at 1:22 pm Reply

WOW, The article of the year. Bet you won’t see this on any CNN.
superironstone


So... if Obama is gay, or bisexual, and on the down low; and the progressives think that this is a type of lifestyle that is so diversely sensational (pun intended), acceptable, and to be "celebrated" - then my question is - why all the secrecy?

Luk 8:17 "For nothing is secret that will not be revealed, nor anything hidden that will not be known and come to light."



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Understanding The Islamo-Fascist Devil We Face


I didn't expect to write about such a topic today, but after viewing a free sample of WorldNetWeekly, I ran across a very interesting letter written by Erica Thunderpaws on page 268. Her brief letter was intriguing enough to lead me to her blog called "Jefferson Rebels" where she wrote a highly informative blog post back in January, 2010, called:

Sexual Depravity Breeds Savage Jihadists.

Here is a copy of her letter over at WorldNetWeekly:



As a Westerner, I assumed that Muslims were holier-than-thou with respect to sexuality because of the way they keep their women hidden under the burka. That view was totally shattered when I researched the subject of sexual behavior in that part of the world. Terrorists become terrorists because of their sexual beliefs, and girls and women are not their only victims. Indeed, prepubescent boys are sexually abused and then denied sexual outlets when they reach sexual maturity - unless it is to abuse more prepubescent boys. Their abused minds and bodies turn them into barbaric jihadists. American psychologists should do more to expose this. Just because we describe the jihadist culture as "religious" is no reason to assume their behavior equates with Christian religious behavior. Not even close!

What I learned was so disturbing, I recently wrote this article.

Erica Thunderpaws (Note: possibly a screen name)


Now, I have to warn readers that you might find the sexual descriptions there offensive. There is a warning at the blog that the additional links include descriptions that are downright gruesome. However, as the blog author indicates:



[b]ut this may be the only way for you to understand the devil we face. I might add, the same Islamo-fascist devil that some believe should rule the world.


I haven't gotten to the links yet, but I thought that this new information was profoundly important to understand the totality of what we are facing in our current War on Islamic-Jihadist Terrorism!

Sean Hannity recently interviewed the man who wrote the newly published book "Son of Hamas." The writer had an inside look into the Hamas terrorism group because he lived that life. Since then, he has claimed conversion to Christianity and feels compelled to tell his story. Sean appeared to be very wary of the man during the interview. Who wouldn't be? We all know that radical Islamic terrorists are trained to lie in order to get the trust of Westerners so that they can kill us!

The most chilling part of the interview was when Sean asked the man (paraphrased here) if there is such a thing as "moderate Muslims." The man said NO!! Although not all Muslims carry out jihad, the devout ones are trained to believe every word of the Quran. Therefore, the verses that tell them to "kill the infidel" are meant for every believer.

In America, there are probably "Westernized" Muslims that choose to ignore such passages (just like some apostate Christians ignore the fact that abortion and homosexual behavior are sins), so they demonstrate no threat to non-Muslims around them.

We have freedom of religion here in America. Therefore, Muslims are free to practice their beliefs as long as they don't harm or kill anyone.

People like Rosie O'Donnell who ignorantly and naively claimed that Christian faith is more "negative" and/or "radical" than Islamic Jihadism just don't know what they are talking about! Those who think that Muslims and Christians worship the same God need to do the research necessary to realize how untrue that belief really is!

Back to the topic of the blog post.

Recall that when the former terrorist leader of the Palestinians, Yasser Arafat died, there were rumors (some claim that it was confirmed) that he died of AIDS. There was documentation that he had been known to have frequent homosexual sex with young males. Many American journalists dismissed such revelations as not believable. The well-researched blog post above proves just how wrong and naive they all were.

Also, recall that some of the 9/11 terrorists were reported to have visited strip joints before carrying out their murderous rampage.

Erica wrote:


Now I'm completely convinced that the root of the terrorist problem is sexual obsession, rather than repression, and this depravity is fueled by the Qur’an and the Hadith.

We must add that the training by radical Islamic Imams, who spew absolute hatred for the West, also plays a vital role in the mindset of terrorists. The depravity of Radical Islam knows no bounds! It is very evident that the beliefs passed on from Mohammad when the Muslim religion began were not from God. Those who would be so gullible to believe that Islam is a "religion of peace" or just like any other religion out there, are hopelessly uninformed!

It pains me to write this post. It really does. It shows how badly people in the Middle East are brain DIRTIED to believe in such horrific things that are involved in the teachings of radical Islam.

Thank God that His Word is Truth! The Bible teaches that in the last days, there will be more and more conversions to belief in Jesus Christ, the Son of God, Savior and Lord of the universe! There have been many reports that Iraqis are being converted to Christianity at a rate previously unknown before in the Middle East!

Praise God!

Jesus Christ is the only TRUE hope for Muslims. Jesus is the only TRUE hope for us all!

Tts 2:13 Looking for that blessed hope, and the glorious appearing of the great God and our Saviour Jesus Christ;


Tts 2:14 Who gave himself for us, that he might redeem us from all iniquity, and purify unto himself a peculiar people, zealous of good works.


Tts 2:15 These things speak, and exhort, and rebuke with all authority. Let no man despise thee.



Hat Tips to all links.

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A book to help you answer Islam:

Answering Islam: The Crescent in the Light of the Cross by Norman Geisler and Abdul Saleeb

Two Examples: Homosexual Behavior Destroys Lives

There is a lot of ugly information coming out about Obama's horrible choice for "safe school czar" - Kevin Jennings. When you go to the link, have a barf bag ready. It is all quite sickening...to say the least! [WARNING! VERY GRAPHIC CONTENT at the link below! Don't claim I didn't warn you.]

Big Government: Fistgate - Barack Obama's "Safe Schools Czar's 2000 Conference Promoted Fisting to 14-year-olds.

That title alone is enough to turn your stomach! Such depravity...

In a somewhat related matter (additionally despicable topic but thankfully not as graphic), GMPilot continues to make an issue of the church cover-ups regarding homosexuality in the priesthood of the Catholic Church. In a thread at my message board that was started a few years ago (and has 1,152 views), GMPilot recently added the following:

News of the Weak(land)

There’s been no church cover-up news in a while now, but this one comes just in time for Christmas.

From the Journal Sentinel, Milwaukee, Wisconsin, 03 Dec 2009:


Quote:
Weakland shredded copies of sex abuse reports, documents say
By Bruce Vielmetti of the Journal Sentinel
Posted: Dec. 3, 2009

Former Milwaukee Archbishop Rembert Weakland routinely shredded copies of weekly reports about sexual abuse by priests, according to formerly sealed testimony turned over to Milwaukee County's district attorney on Thursday.

In a 1993 deposition, Weakland admitted destroying copies of the reports in his office, according to a partial transcript of the deposition released by Survivors Network of those Abused by Priests.

Peter Isely, SNAP's Midwest director, turned over the partial transcript, as well as portions of the logs to which Weakland was referring, to Milwaukee County District Attorney John Chisholm and asked him to review them for any possible criminal violations. Chisholm accepted the records and promised a thorough review.

The 16-year-old deposition documents have come to light during the discovery process in more than a dozen civil fraud lawsuits filed against the Milwaukee archdiocese.

SNAP made the announcements at a news conference Thursday morning outside Chisholm's office at the Milwaukee County courts complex.

Julie Wolf, communications director for the Archdiocese of Milwaukee, said Thursday she had not seen the documents SNAP released and could make no comment on them for the archdiocese.

In the deposition, Weakland explains that he got copies of the weekly logs made by vicars in the archdiocese about ongoing problem priests. He said he would read them, then shred them because he didn't want to keep them in his office. He would "try to remember anything that is quite serious and important," and later discuss the matters with the vicar.

SNAP also released portions of logs kept on two abusive priests, Siegfried Widera and Franklyn Becker. Widera killed himself in 2003 after police cornered him in Mexico; Becker has been removed from the priesthood. Isely said not all portions of all vicar logs have been released yet as part of the civil litigation.

Isely said SNAP also will ask Archbishop-designate Jerome Listecki to censure and discipline Weakland and anyone else who may have been involved in covering up sex abuse by clergy. He said Listecki has refused to say whether he would review why the Diocese of La Crosse, where he is bishop, has cleared more clergy accused of abuse than most dioceses.

Listecki told Wisconsin Public Radio that he did not have enough time left in his term as bishop in La Crosse and that, besides, it was the holiday season.


A picture of the alleged representative of Christ may be found at http://www.jsonline.com/news/milwaukee/78431087.html


My response:

The difference between playing "church" rather than being of the Church of Christ:

What makes you think that the people involved in such cover-up, corruption, and/or sexual misconduct are genuine followers of Jesus Christ?

"Church" cover-up of the type you are describing is limited to, and representative of, the human side of the equation. The church of Jesus Christ (all genuine saved believers) are on the side of God, His written Word the Bible, and His Living Word - Jesus Christ.

I can tell you with 99% certainty that the "alleged representative of Christ" is more like a MIS-REPRESENTATIVE of Christ. The 1% is there in case the pseudo archbishop repents - which we all must do.
__________________
See to it that no one takes you captive through hollow and deceptive philosophy, which depends on human tradition and the basic principles of this world rather than on Christ. Colossians 2:8

The eyes of the Lord move to and fro throughout the earth to show Himself strong to those whose hearts are fully committed to Him. 2 Chronicles 16:9

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Thoughts, comments and questions from readers on either of these two stories are welcomed in the comment section.

Whenever the subject of homosexuality is brought up here at Talk Wisdom, the discussion often becomes a battle. I know it's difficult, but let's try to keep a civil tone. The Kevin Jennings story is so outrageous that it is hard to believe this evil pervert was chosen by Obama for "safe schools czar."

Hat Tip:

Big Government.

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P.S. GateWay Pundit has two stories on the radical homosexual agenda being pushed upon children in public schools. Jim Hoft's site has been continually attacked since revealing this story. The link isn't working right now, but when it is, be sure to read about the books and the content in them in the post there. Absolutely unbelievable that schools are promoting such gay p0rno books - to children!!

Links are working now. Here are the two links:

GateWay Pundit: Obama Safe Schools Czar Promoted Fisting to Children

GateWay Pundit: Obama's Safe Schools Czar Promotes Child Sex Books; Praised Man-Boy Sex Leader

One Ongoing Battle

Good and bad news about the ongoing (and seemingly never-ending) battle against homosexual indoctrination, continued lawsuits and the radical activists push for same-sex "marriage."

First, the bad news. Alliance Defense Fund has announced that there has been a class action lawsuit filed:

State Class Action Lawsuit Filed Challenging California Marriage Amendment

PR Newswire: “This lawsuit claims that section 7.5 of Article I violates the equal protection clause of the State Constitution. McCoy said, ‘we chose to bring this lawsuit in State Court rather than in Federal Court because sexual orientation is a protected class under California State Law and it is not recognized in Federal Law.’”

The complaint: Burns v. State of California


However, as the following comment tells us, this might be a blessing in disguise:

Karen Grube
Posted June 28, 2009 at 9:09 am
I love it! This would be a terrific opportunity to blow the lid off of the concept that sexual orientation should be a protected class at all. I would challed this law firm to prove there is any real way to measure or determine one’s sexual orientation the way there is one’s race, gender, or age. There is no DNA test, no ‘gay gene’ to prove one’s sexual orientation. We could prove, in court, that it is simply a lifestyle choice! How cool would that be? I’m serious. This could be the perfect venue to repeal the so-called sexual orientation protections that currently exist in California state law. Oh, and besides that, I would challege it on the basis that having such protections violates federal law, since federal law doesn’t recognize such protections. This could be terrific! Use this as the opportunity to PROVE people don’t get special protections for their lifestyle choices! That would be wonderful!


Karen Grube makes some excellent points! Why is an aberrant behavior being given protections in California state law that are not recognized in federal law? Should people get special protections (read: over and above the protections of those who do not participate in such behaviors??) for their lifestyle choices?

This is exactly why the "hate crimes" legislation currently being debated in Congress must not pass! Not only would there be special protections for an aberrant sexual deviancy, but there would be SPECIAL PUNISHMENT(S) FOR THOUGHTS OF THOSE WHO CLAIM THAT HOMOSEXUAL BEHAVIOR IS A SEXUAL DEVIANCY!

On the good news front, Pastor DL Foster has launched his new Gay Christian Movement Watch website!

GCMWatch

You can read more details about GCMWatch here. Also, it is very helpful to read Examining the Gay Christian Movement

Fellow Christian blogger, Neil Simpson has an excellent post up at his Eternity Matters blog.

The Sin of Sodom

I have cross-posted it at my Protect Biblical Marriage blog: Biblical Fallacies of Pro-Gay Theology and have added commentary and additional links on this hotly debated topic.

Hat Tips:

Alliance Defense Fund

Gay Christian Movement Watch

Eternity Matters

Need a Laugh? Or cry...

Well, the following article will provoke some kind of reaction from you! The dirt is in the details, however. In reality, it is a very sad state of affairs. Despite that fact, I just couldn't help laughing when I read More Proof the Inmates are Running the Asylum



In the inmates-are-running-the-asylum department, too many cases are popping up to ignore them.


Read the article for the details, and then vote for your favorite idiotic "mind of the day" amongst the lunatic fringe of society:



1. At the state capitol in Olympia, Washington, Gov. Christine Gregoire (a Democrat, of course), has approved the placement of an atheist sign for public display next to a nativity scene.

2. In an unrelated Christmas story from the Netherlands, a gay group in Amsterdam has organized a "Pink Christmas" festival featuring a nativity scene with two Josephs and two Marys.

3. In Bloomington, Indiana, an undercover pro-life college student told a Planned Parenthood "nurse" that she was 13 and had been impregnated by a 31-year-old man. The nurse told the girl not to disclose her age or the age of the man. She then encouraged the girl to lie and say that the "boy" in question was 14. Apparently, local police, although they have been notified of the statutory rape implications in this case, have chosen to do nothing to investigate Planned Parenthood. They did, however, post extra security around the clinic in case of a "pro-life backlash."

4. In Great Britain (which is no longer so great), Muslims have so cowed the government that public schools have stopped teaching about the Holocaust. It seems that a significant percentage of the Islamic population in the U.K. (which is growing by frightening quantities) believes the same fairy tale espoused by Iranian President Mahmoud Ahmadinejad -- namely that the holocaust never happened.


Apparently, in Britain we got a two-fer. Here's another example of political correctness gone crazy:



5. Also in England, the popularity of chaste pop idols like the Jonas Brothers has not been exalted. In fact, girls caught wearing "purity rings," signifying that they wanted to remain virgins until marriage, were forced to remove them. Apparently, the authorities didn't want the slutty girls to feel ostracized.


Now, we return back to the U.S. of gay, gay, gay...



6. In Congress, Rep. Charlie Rangel (D-NY), after having violated about half of the federal tax laws, is staying on as chairman of the tax-writing House Ways and Means Committee. Meanwhile, Sen. Chris Dodd and Rep. Barney Frank, the king and queen of congressional oversight of the banking industry, are still in charge of running their respective asylums. Frank, whose boyfriend ran a prostitution ring out of the congressman's townhouse back in 1990, and who more recently was involved in a homosexual affair with an official of Fannie Mae, one of the bankrupt quasi-governmental entities Frank oversees as head of the House Financial Services Committee, sees no conflict between his public and personal life. Pay no attention to that little gay man behind the curtain.


Last, but not least, we have the automaker CEOs returning to Congress (in their "green" vehicles instead of using their corporate jets) bowing in front of Queen Nancy Pelosi...



7. The great irony here is that Speaker of the House Nancy Pelosi has a jet available to her at all times as well. Not to worry, though, because the auto makers have been so cowed that they drove to DC in their own "green" vehicles the next time they came calling with their hands out.


The punch line is the best!



It's like "One Flew Over the Cuckoo's Nest" meets "Mr. Smith Goes to Washington." Except that Mr. Smith is in a straight jacket in a rubber room while the loons run the asylum.


Yep...

If author Doug Patton knew at the time that the Governor of Illinois would be caught (allegedly) trying to sell Obama's Senate seat - I'm sure he would have included that in his insanity list!

Illinois? Chicago? Corruption? Is ANYONE at all surprised by this??

But there is more! Go read the article.

Excerpt:

"The breadth of corruption laid out in these charges is staggering," Fitzgerald said in a statement.


On second thought, these are not laughing matters. They are all truly sad and represent man's utmost depravity that has taken over our beloved nation - and the world.

Come back Lord Jesus...and rescue us from these and their utterly senseless derangement syndrome!

HT's:

GOP USA

Fox News

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In an unrelated matter, I recently opened up my Talk Wisdom Forums (for about one day) so that someone could register there. The spammers came along and one or two "registered." I immediately deleted them and closed registration.

Today, I wanted to see what the IP addresses were of the "guests" at the board. This is what I found:
Guest Replying to Thread
Hey frank- re: baseball 37.Red-217-125-189.dynamicIP.rima-tde.net
09:28 AM Guest Viewing Thread
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Article 8 Alliance/Massresistance emails scrubcp3.video.search.sk1.yahoo.com
09:28 AM Guest Viewing Thread
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09:28 AM Guest Viewing Thread
Evolution - Philosophy, Not Science 37.Red-217-125-189.dynamicIP.rima-tde.net

If you place "dynamicIP.rima-tde.net" in a search engine - you find out that it is a spam IP address.

When I had open registration at the forum, I was deleting about 10 spam IP address registrations per day. It was so time consuming, that I decided to close the board to immediate registration capability and only open it up for people who request registration.

Just wanted to let my Talk Wisdom blog visitors know why I have done this. If any of you want to register at the forum, please use the "Contact" method at the bottom of the front page.

Christine

P.S. Gary - you are already registered. Contact me again if you have any questions. Note: comment moderation is on over there, too.

Fight For What's Right

I can't decide which of the following articles alarms me, and saddens me more. I will let readers make their own evaluations and decision.

Canadian Doctors Group Worried Palin Example Will Lower Down's Abortion Rate

Does Focus on the Family Really Hate Gay People?

[Please read above article in conjunction with the following one.]

Homosexual U.K. Documentarian Says Gay Lifestyle a "Sewer" of Casual Degrading Sex, Drug Abuse and Misery

I now have a hypothetical statement and questions to present.

Contrary to popular belief (which is usually never scientific anyway), there is no such thing as a "gay gene." Now, when one considers each of these articles, let's examine what might happen in the abortion industry if a "gay gene" were ever found.

Do you think that those Canadian physicians would be quick to change their minds regarding aborting children for that particular genetic disposition?

If all pre-disposed "gay babies" where aborted in the womb, would Focus on the Family's "Love Won Out" program eventually die out too?

Reading about the misery of those caught up in the homosexual lifestyle in the U.K., would it be more merciful to abort babies who might be deemed with homosexual tendencies?

One last article to share.

Post-abortion grief very real, experts say
Psychologists refute claim terminating life doesn't emotionally scar men, women


Christians, we need to NEVER give up the fight for what's right - no matter what those who oppose us think or do!

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Last, but most important of all, I share the GOOD NEWS of the day - today's devotional message from ChristiansUnite.com:


Daily Light on the Daily Path Devotional
Friday September 12, 2008
http://bible.christiansunite.com/devotionals.shtml


Morning

I have seen his ways, and will heal him.

I [am] the LORD that healeth thee.--O LORD, thou hast searched me, and known [me]. Thou knowest my downsitting and mine uprising, thou understandest my thought afar off. Thou compassest my path and my lying down, and art acquainted [with] all my ways.--Thou hast set our iniquities before thee, our secret [sins] in the light of thy countenance.--All things [are] naked and opened unto the eyes of him with whom we have to do.

Come now, and let us reason together, saith the LORD: though your sins be as scarlet, they shall be as white as snow; though they be red like crimson, they shall be as wool.--He is gracious unto him, and saith, Deliver him from going down to the pit: I have found a ransom.--He [was] wounded for our transgressions, [he was] bruised for our iniquities: the chastisement of our peace [was] upon him; and with his stripes we are healed.--He hath sent me to bind up the brokenhearted.--Thy faith hath made thee whole; go in peace, and be whole of thy plague.

Isa 57:18 Ex 15:26 Ps 139:1-3 90:8 Heb 4:13 Isa 1:18 Job 33:24 Isa 53:5 61:1 Mr 5:34

Daily Light on the Daily Path Devotional
Friday September 12, 2008
http://bible.christiansunite.com/devotionals.shtml


Evening

The LORD taketh my part.

The LORD hear thee in the day of trouble; the name of the God of Jacob defend thee; send thee help from the sanctuary, and strengthen thee out of Zion. . . .We will rejoice in thy salvation, and in the name of our God we will set up [our] banners: the LORD fulfil all thy petitions. . . . Some [trust] in chariots, and some in horses: but we will remember the name of the LORD our God.
They are brought down and fallen: but we are risen, and stand upright.

When the enemy shall come in like a flood, the Spirit of the LORD shall lift up a standard against him.--There hath no temptation taken you but such as is common to man: but God [is] faithful, who will not suffer you to be tempted above that ye are able; but will with the temptation also make a way to escape, that ye may be able to bear [it].

If God [be] for us, who [can be] against us?--The LORD [is] on my side; I will not fear.

Our God whom we serve is able to deliver us from the burning fiery furnace, and he will deliver [us].

Ps 118:7 20:1,2,5,7,8 Isa 59:19 1Co 10:13 Ro 8:31 Ps 118:6 Da 3:17


HT's

LifeSiteNews.com

CitizenLink

WorldNetDaily

ChristiansUnite.com

Talk Wisdom Irks GreenEyedLilo & Co.

Received another comment from homosexual advocates. How does this blog get on their radar screen so often? My guess is that it is probably the same disgruntled homosexual person using various screen names.

The following is a copy of the post and some of the comments there. A blogger named "alcari" apparently took offense towards a former Talk Wisdom post entitled Their Own Consciences Testify.

Here we go! I have blotted out the curse words. Didn't want to subject my readers to a link to their LGBT CULT OF CONFUSION!

Christine

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Meh Fundie!

Italicized portion taken from my original blog post:

It is also "written on our hearts." In our heart of hearts, not matter what the homosexual agenda tries to push on us, WE KNOW that same-sex sexual behavior is a sin and an abomination to God. The fact that certain people refuse to recognize that fact does not change the truth. As Roman 2:15 informs us - their thoughts will either accuse or excuse them!

The gay christian movement is in the business of excusing themselves. They have chosen "to exchange the truth for a lie."

And, what's more, they will do ANYTHING and EVERYTHING to attempt to cover their sin and excuse themselves rather than what is truly needed - repentance! Why? Because whether one admits it or not, one's own conscience and God's Word accuses them.


ChristineWJC, Her "Talk Wisdom" blog [Comments (16)] [2008-Aug-30]

Submitted by GreenEyedLilo

Rat of Steel

#697502
2008-Aug-30 07:30 PM

"WE KNOW that same-sex sexual behavior is a sin and an abomination to God."

In the immortal words of the Lone Ranger's sidekick, Tonto:

"What do you mean 'WE', paleface?"


RavenWood

#697512
2008-Aug-30 07:36 PM

Sounds like Her "Talk Bulls**t."


Panz

#697519
2008-Aug-30 07:37 PM

We know?
Um, no, you don't, you THINK and BELIEVE according to cherry picking from your FAITH...

"And, what's more, they will do ANYTHING and EVERYTHING to attempt to cover their sin and excuse themselves rather than what is truly needed - repentance!"

Wait, isn't this like Christianity in a nutshell?


aaa

#697528
2008-Aug-30 07:42 PM

Whine...


Old Viking.

#697630
2008-Aug-30 08:21 PM

Couldn't you choose another abomination -- obstreperous children, non-virgin brides -- for a change of pace? Just for a while, mind you.


Xotan

#697633
2008-Aug-30 08:24 PM

The day Christians extend tolerance to others, and start minding their own business, and stop looking at what is going on in others' bedrooms, is the day they should be tolerated. Until then, they should be whacked three times on each ear morning, noon and night with a wet tea towel.

This cow is a steaming pile of barf and sick.




#697646
2008-Aug-30 08:36 PM

i really would like to know what the **** the gay "agenda" is, being accepted and treated as people with emotions? oh ok..


IanC

#697721
2008-Aug-30 09:45 PM

We?

Oh no. Not we. Just some


Fishcakes

#697746
2008-Aug-30 10:00 PM

In my heart of hearts, I know that there's absolutely NOTHING wrong with homosexuality, that love is love, and hell, we need MORE love in the world today, and who are we to say who others can and cannot love?



#697761
2008-Aug-30 10:11 PM

@Fishcakes: Right on.


GreenEyedLilo

#697788
2008-Aug-30 10:26 PM

@Old Viking: I wouldn't wish this nonsense on a non-virgin bride or any child.

She tries to make us sound like cats in the litterbox or something. But no "God" accuses me. It's God's little helpers, like Christine, who try to accuse me and other LGBTs, and the thing is, the "crime" isn't a bad thing at all. The "crime" is a just-fine thing that can sometimes be really good!



alex77

#697797
2008-Aug-30 10:31 PM

I still have hope (if he exists) that God is Love. Have a nice day. And please try to "Love thy neighbour" just once.


Jay-Sus

#697805
2008-Aug-30 10:39 PM

Talk Wisdom could not be more wrong.


Allegory for Jesus

#697830
2008-Aug-30 10:52 PM

"I feel it in gut that they are icky!" is not a very good argument. Just FYI.

"They have chosen "to exchange the truth for a lie." "

Oh...and you haven't? I assume that you couldn't have possibly done so, since you have "wisdom" in your blog title. You are obviously immune to such oversights, right?

"And, what's more, they will do ANYTHING and EVERYTHING to attempt to cover their sin and excuse themselves rather than what is truly needed"

Repent for being a woman NOW!! Do it! Yeah. Not exactly fun to be forced to repent for something that isn't your choice, and isn't morally wrong from your view, now is it?


ID82

#697837
2008-Aug-30 10:54 PM

What is this agenda that they speak of?


Reverend Jeremiah

#697966
2008-Aug-31 12:59 AM

Hey **** face.. a homosexuals conscience doesnt accuse them..all it does is think of hot, sweaty men folk.

Lack Of Real Wisdom?

Received a comment this morning from someone who took me to task for my labeling of GLBT people as "confused." Apparently, this commenter believes that the post showed a "lack of real wisdom" on my part. I have already responded, but please feel free to share any thoughts and comments (whether you agree or disagree) you may have on this issue.

Here is the original post.

Here is a copy of the comment:

neverlosethatfeeling said...
I know this thread is a month old, but for a site that proposes to talk wisdom, I'm surely not seeing much evidence of introspection in this article.

Your idea that gay people are 'confused' is unrefined and hyperbolic; calling all gay people everywhere (regardless of the obvious dissimilarities between gays, lesbians, bisexuals and transsexuals) confused is a pretty ungracious move, and by trying to obliterate the differences between them, you reduce your ability to make sense of individual gays and lesbians. The word 'confused' shouldn't be a rhetorical weapon with which you discredit people.

The cruelty of the word 'confused' is like applying the word 'retarded' to a non-retarded person: it's slander, and it's demeaning. Do you really mean to say that you are more informed about a gay person's sexuality than they are? Or a transgendered person?

Lots of gays and lesbians seem 'confused' about their sexual preference: when they are in denial about who they are attracted to and trying to fit in and 'become' heterosexual, "confused" is a word you hear a lot.

But it diminishes your ability to listen to people if you merely label them (or your past self!) 'confused' and pretend that, by stringing together ad-hominem criticisms and some half-digested pop science you've conquered with Reason. It shows you lack patience. It's a bully tactic that hints at a lack of real wisdom, and an inability to address oneself to the person in front of you.

And finally, it's not constructive. It comes off as pedantic, crude, and lacking in charity. And if you really do possess the Truth, with all your riches you think you'd be able to afford some good charity. Yes, even to people you think are committing an abominable evil. Please, please don't talk this way anymore.

August 30, 2008 5:02:00 AM PDT



My reply:


neverlosethatfeeling,

Thank you for stopping by and expressing your opinion. Though we most likely will never agree on this subject, I appreciate that you took the time to comment.

I will begin with one area of agreement regarding your comment.

I agree that all of the adjectives described through the acronym GLBT have definite dissimilarities about them. However, I think that my choice of the term "confused" is applicable and does not necessarily have to be seen as terribly derogatory.

If you look at the various meanings of the word "confused" you will note that it does contain several different points.

If I were to choose which definitions more accurately describe what I am attempting to convey here, I would select the following:

5. to combine without order; jumble; disorder: Try not to confuse the papers on the desk.
6. Archaic. to bring to ruin or naught.

To disconcert is to disturb one's mind by irritation, perplexities, etc

To make opaque; blur

To mistake (for another): confused effusiveness with affection.
To make opaque; blur: "The old labels ... confuse debate instead of clarifying it" (Christopher Lasch).
To assemble without order or sense; jumble.
Archaic To bring to ruination.

intr.
To make something unclear or incomprehensible: a new tax code that only further confuses.


Lacking logical order or sense: a confused set of instructions.
Chaotic; jumbled: a confused mass of papers on the floor.


If you will notice, I did not select the meaning(s) of the word which would suggest "lack of intelligence or understanding." Therefore, this eliminates the idea that I am using such a term as some people would use the term "retarded."

I realize that many glbt people are highly intelligent and successful in their lives. That's not the kind of confusion that I mean here.

What I am saying is what the portions of the definition I have chosen from the list indicate.

The reason that I have done this is precisely because our God of the Bible is not a God of confusion. He is a God of order.

Human beings confuse things.

I won't go into great detail here because you can read more about this elsewhere on this blog. Just type in "homosexuality" and/or "radical homosexual agenda" into the blog search box.

Briefly, I will say that there are people who have different purposes in mind when expressing their sexual orientation and proclivities. Some want approval. Some are actively trying to sway children away from what their parents (and thus, the Bible) teaches them regarding God's plan for proper sexuality. I will also say that many unsaved heterosexuals have their own brand of sexual confusion in this area. Adultery, fornication, pedophilia, rape, bestiality and porn are just a few.

[Update on 8/31/08 - Just as Susan Smith mentioned in her comment here, Christians can backslide and struggle with sin. Here is a link to an awful situation regarding a "pastor" who lied about having cancer to hide his p()rn addiction. One has to wonder whether or not this person was truly born-again. If he is genuinely saved, then he obviously did not take the next step towards sanctification through making Christ Lord over his life. When you read that article, you will find that the man had a vomiting problem. P()rn can certainly be so disgusting - that the symptom is real. Guilt, shame, secretiveness, lying, sexual immorality, and gross sexual sin will do that to a person. Perhaps this is why God created us to react in such a way towards sin. The only way out from suffering its penalty (including the physical, emotional, intellectual and spiritual harm) is repentance (which is not only asking for forgiveness - but turning away from former sins). This heterosexual man's terrible addiction was not freedom - it was bondage. Sin is bondage. That is why Jesus told us that "the truth will set you free."]

However, the difference is that not many heterosexuals get to go into the public schools and "teach" such sexual deviancy to the students. Homosexual activists are busy polluting young minds with sexual confusion and deviation that can (and often does) lead to ruination - which is another description of the term "confused."

I could not help but noticed that you capitalized the term "reason." Was this intentional? If so, is reason your god?

Christian author and apologist, R.C. Sproul once said, "Love of wisdom is to discover ultimate reality."

Truth is reality, whereas philosophy (while utilizing reason) is trying to discover reality.

We each start somewhere. What is your worldview?

God gave us a conscience. However, He also warned us that we can be captivated by the world's lies. (See Romans 12:2) We are told in Scripture that we need to be born again through Christ and thus have the renewing of the mind.

The Bible informs us that we need to seek to be "meta morphed" - a.k.a. "transformed" by the "renewing of our minds." (See 2 Corinthians 3:18)

Christian believers are highly concerned with the anti-God, anti-Biblical teachings that are going on in our nation. Destruction of the consciences of our children is at work. We are actively working to prevent such an onslaught.

Sin has blinded many to God's Truth. Do you believe there is such a thing as absolute truth? If so, where would you look for it? Where would you find it?

The downside of not knowing Jesus Christ or His Word, the Bible and all that it instructs is that we will be conformed, instead, to the world. (See Colossians 2:8)

My goal at this blog is to carry out Jesus' command of The Great Commission. This includes sharing the Gospel. Part of sharing the gospel of Jesus Christ is to inform people of the bad news - that we are all sinners desperately in need of the Savior. The Cross of Christ is an offense to those who are perishing. Look at how offended you were when I only used the word "confused."

My vision in this effort is to help others see and realize the joy that can be theirs when they learn and apply God's Word to their lives.

My mission is to fellowship with people who are seeking answers, share the gospel message and help lead them to Christ. I want to encourage new believers towards the study of God's Word in order for them to be able to discern truth from error.

I truly believe that once a person is born again in Christ, he/she will be led by the Holy Spirit to discern and apply God's Word - which, by the way, ultimately fulfills every need.

I am committed to applying God's Word in every area of my life and help show others the way towards reconciliation with God - even if it means that people may be offended by what I share.

Jesus said, "What does it profit a man to gain the whole world and lose his own soul?"

My ultimate goal is to evangelize in this confused and hurting world. I can only point in the direction of Jesus Christ. He does the saving.

Think about this.

If evangelizing is all about making people feel comfortable in their particular sinful proclivities, then the gay-behavior-affirming churches are right.

However, If evangelizing is all about pointing out that we are all sinners in need of the Savior, Jesus Christ; and the only way into His Kingdom is through repentance of sin at the foot of the cross for our redemption - then the born again, Bible believing, Christ loving, saved followers are right.

Bottom line? God is right! And we discover Him and His Truth through the Person of Jesus Christ. Jesus is the way, the truth and the life - no one comes to the Father except by Him (see John 14:6)! The Bible is special revelation about Jesus Christ. It is God's Love Book to this sinful world. Nothing else compares!

God's Call For Righteousness

I thought it was really good that Rick Warren brought up the two most controversial social subjects that Christians must deal with in society today - abortion and homosexuality. We needed to hear the clear differences between the two candidates who are running for the presidency in 2008. One of them will most likely be president. The differences between the two are like night and day!

I you already watched the videos and/or read the transcript at the links provided in my post about the Civil Forum, then you already know where each candidate stands - particularly on these two issues.

When I hear arguments being bantered about in favor of same-sex marriage, I have to share the fact that those who would ignore God's laws and admonitions in the Bible obviously just don't care what the truth is - they only want to further their own agenda. What's more, their "agenda" is not new. It has been done before. The story of Sodom and Gomorrah testifies to what happens when people ignore God's call for righteousness.

Jesus told us that one of the clear signs that we are getting closer and closer to the end times would be that the world would be "as in the Days of Lot" and "as in the Days of Noah."



Luk 17:28 Likewise also as it was in the days of Lot; they did eat, they drank, they bought, they sold, they planted, they builded;

Luk 17:29 But the same day that Lot went out of Sodom it rained fire and brimstone from heaven, and destroyed [them] all.

Luk 17:30 Even thus shall it be in the day when the Son of man is revealed.

Mat 24:37 But as the days of Noe [were], so shall also the coming of the Son of man be.

Mat 24:38 For as in the days that were before the flood they were eating and drinking, marrying and giving in marriage, until the day that Noe entered into the ark,

Luk 17:26 And as it was in the days of Noe, so shall it be also in the days of the Son of man.

Luk 17:27 They did eat, they drank, they married wives, they were given in marriage, until the day that Noe entered into the ark, and the flood came, and destroyed them all.



Over the weekend, I heard a preacher's sermon that gave a little more insight into God's mercy demonstrated within the biblical account of Sodom and Gomorrah. If you are familiar with the story, Abraham asked God to spare the two cities if he could find 50 righteous people there. When Abraham realized that it would probably not be possible to find 50 righteous people in such wicked cities, he asked if God would spare them if he found 20 righteous people. Each time, God gave Abraham the grace he was asking for in finding righteous people. Of course, God knew that Abraham wouldn't even find 10 righteous people - which was Abraham's last request.

Think about this for a moment. Lot's family was led out of Sodom by angels (who actually almost had to force them to leave!) and Lot's family of four were saved from the carnage. Except for one person. Lot's wife disobeyed the command not to look back. She did and was instantly turned into a pillar of salt! So, in total, only three people were saved that day. What if Lot and his daughters had found six or seven people and converted them to be righteous in the eyes of the LORD God? Would God not have spared Sodom and Gomorrah? He is a God of His Word - isn't he?

I thought that was a great point. It shows that any effort that we put into evangelism is not wasted. We'll never know whose heart (or how many hearts, for that matter) could be turned back towards God if we don't try! We'll never know, this side of heaven, what affect converting people to Christ will have in saving a city, a town, a state, or even a nation!

We have been given The Great Commission by Jesus Christ. It was his final command before ascending into heaven to be seated at the right hand of God the Father. Shouldn't we take this command seriously all the days of our lives?

The trouble is, many Christians appear to be afraid to speak out against the evils of our times. What's worse, as one controversial pastor shared in a sermon, "the church (meaning all believers, not a building or denomination) sounds like a house cat purring on the couch!"

Ouch!!

Contrast that with what the Bible says:



Pro 28:1 ¶ The wicked flee when no man pursueth: but the righteous are bold as a lion.

Amo 3:8 The lion hath roared, who will not fear? the Lord GOD hath spoken, who can but prophesy?


Personally, I think that the tendency of many Christians not to speak out against abortion and homosexuality is because they want to be loved and accepted. Therefore, many have become silent.

I have news for you - THE MEDIA WILL NEVER LOVE YOU!

In fact, Jesus told us that "the world hated me first" and "they will hate you, too."

Why?

Jesus tells us, "because of me."

And, the second reason is because their deeds were evil and Jesus exposed them for who they follow (your father - the devil) and for what they are (sinners in need of Him! The Savior!)!

I heard a saying that should encourage you - even when you are verbally attacked because of your beliefs:

"Crows only attack the best fruit!"

Back to the Civil Forum questions.

When the abortion question was answered by Obama, he gave a flippant (IMO) answer. Over the past two days, I have noticed that some news analysts have tried their best to try and spin his answer so that it wouldn't appear to have been as bad as it surely was!

Bottom line? Obama had no defense for his wayward position on the important issue regarding the truth about when life begins.

Because of his rabid, baby-killing positions (someone once quipped that Obama never met an abortion method he didn't like) he actually trapped himself - which caused him to look even more ridiculous.

Let's see what God's Word has to say about "when life begins."



Isa 49:1 ¶ Listen, O isles, unto me; and hearken, ye people, from far; The LORD hath called me from the womb; from the bowels of my mother hath he made mention of my name.

Isa 49:5 ¶ And now, saith the LORD that formed me from the womb [to be] his servant, to bring Jacob again to him, Though Israel be not gathered, yet shall I be glorious in the eyes of the LORD, and my God shall be my strength.

Jer 1:4 ¶ Then the word of the LORD came unto me, saying,


Jer 1:5 Before I formed thee in the belly I knew thee; and before thou camest forth out of the womb I sanctified thee, [and] I ordained thee a prophet unto the nations.


Yes. I think that God's Word is quite clear when life begins - and the answer is AT THE MOMENT OF CONCEPTION!

Let's look at what happened in Luke:



Luk 1:41 And it came to pass, that, when Elisabeth heard the salutation of Mary, the babe leaped in her womb; and Elisabeth was filled with the Holy Ghost:

Luk 1:42 And she spake out with a loud voice, and said, Blessed [art] thou among women, and blessed [is] the fruit of thy womb.


The baby in Elisabeth's womb - who would be John the Baptist - leaped in her womb when Mary's name - who was carrying Jesus our Savior - was heard.

In Genesis 25:21-26 we read:



Gen 25:20 And Isaac was forty years old when he took Rebekah to wife, the daughter of Bethuel the Syrian of Padanaram, the sister to Laban the Syrian.


Gen 25:21 And Isaac intreated the LORD for his wife, because she [was] barren: and the LORD was intreated of him, and Rebekah his wife conceived.


Gen 25:22 And the children struggled together within her; and she said, If [it be] so, why [am] I thus? And she went to enquire of the LORD.


Gen 25:23 And the LORD said unto her, Two nations [are] in thy womb, and two manner of people shall be separated from thy bowels; and [the one] people shall be stronger than [the other] people; and the elder shall serve the younger.


Gen 25:24 And when her days to be delivered were fulfilled, behold, [there were] twins in her womb.


Gen 25:25 And the first came out red, all over like an hairy garment; and they called his name Esau.


Gen 25:26 And after that came his brother out, and his hand took hold on Esau's heel; and his name was called Jacob: and Isaac [was] threescore years old when she bare them.


Notice that these two twin babies in Rebekah's womb represented two nations. God knew their names! They were not just a "blob of flesh."

An abortion takes away the life of a baby. Period. End of story. What does God think about the killing of innocent life?



Gen 4:10 And he said, What hast thou done? the voice of thy brother's blood crieth unto me from the ground.


God avenges the taking of innocent blood!

In Matthew 27:3-5, we read that Judas, after having turned Jesus over to be crucified hung himself. The guilt was too much for him. He knew that his evil deed led to the shedding of innocent blood.

A pastor once said, "Do not allow abortion to steal our future."

Amen??!!



Pro 14:34 Righteousness exalteth a nation: but sin [is] a reproach to any people.

Mat 5:13 ¶ Ye are the salt of the earth: but if the salt have lost his savour, wherewith shall it be salted? it is thenceforth good for nothing, but to be cast out, and to be trodden under foot of men.


Mat 5:14 Ye are the light of the world. A city that is set on an hill cannot be hid.


Mat 5:15 Neither do men light a candle, and put it under a bushel, but on a candlestick; and it giveth light unto all that are in the house.


Mat 5:16 Let your light so shine before men, that they may see your good works, and glorify your Father which is in heaven.